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From: Richard S <thepowerofdoubt@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?
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Hi Markus,
I live in a 15 floor building, on top of which there is a 30 meter mast,
and my building - by Warsaw standards - is "small". (I set a QRP world
record in 2005 from such a building on 3.5mhz)

Many amateurs have access to far higher objects (:

Thus to hang a dipole on such a building would not be expensive and to
mount a 1w TX at the dipole center point would make beacon construction
simple.

My concept is to have a "real" beacon that would act as a marker of
propagation, but when I look at WSPR I wonder if such an idea is outdated
and the era of traditional beacons is over?

Richard SO5GB


On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Richard,
>
> a 100 m high and 300 m long antenna... sounds like an expensive way to
> generate just 1 W ERP on MF ;-) I'd just love to have one, but I'd rather
> use it to expand my VLF capabilities.
>
> Regarding a "traditional beacon"  - wouldn't BIA (474 +- 1.02 kHz) fulfil=
l
> just that?
>
> Best 73,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
>
> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
> Von: Richard S <thepowerofdoubt@gmail.com>
> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Fr, 29 Jan 2016 11:07 pm
> Betreff: LF: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?
>
>
> Hi,
> If a chance arose for a powerful traditional MF beacon in Poland would it
> be of interest, or has WSPR done away with the need for traditional beaco=
ns?
>
> By powerful, it would be meant the full legal limit (1w!) into a half wav=
e
> dipole mounted high above ground level (minimum 50m, but possibly in exce=
ss
> of 100m).
>
> Your thoughts gentlemen
>
> 73s
> Richard SO5GB
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Markus,<br></div>I live in a 15 flo=
or building, on top of which there is a 30 meter mast, and my building - by=
 Warsaw standards - is &quot;small&quot;. (I set a QRP world record in 2005=
 from such a building on 3.5mhz)<br><br>Many amateurs have access to far hi=
gher objects (:<br><br></div>Thus to hang a dipole on such a building would=
 not be expensive and to mount a 1w TX at the dipole center point would mak=
e beacon construction simple.<br><br></div>My concept is to have a &quot;re=
al&quot; beacon that would act as a marker of propagation, but when I look =
at WSPR I wonder if such an idea is outdated and the era of traditional bea=
cons is over?<br><br></div><div>Richard SO5GB<br></div><div><br><br>=C2=A0<=
br><br></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Markus Vester <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:markusvester@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">markusvester@aol=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt"><font color=3D"=
black" face=3D"arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt"><font color=3D"=
black" face=3D"arial">Hi Richard,</font></div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">=C2=A0</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">a=C2=A0100 m hi=
gh and 300 m long antenna...=C2=A0sounds like an=C2=A0expensive way to gene=
rate just 1 W ERP on MF ;-) I&#39;d=C2=A0just love to=C2=A0have one, but I&=
#39;d rather use it to=C2=A0expand my VLF capabilities.</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">=C2=A0</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt"><font color=3D"=
black" face=3D"arial">Regarding a &quot;traditional beacon&quot;=C2=A0 - wo=
uldn&#39;t=C2=A0BIA=C2=A0(474 +- 1.02 kHz)</font><span style=3D"display:inl=
ine-block"></span>=C2=A0fulfill just that?</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">=C2=A0</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">Best 73,</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt">Markus (DF6NM)<=
/div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: Richard S &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thepowerofdoubt@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">thepowerofdoubt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" targe=
t=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Verschickt: Fr, 29 Jan 2016 11:07 pm<br>
Betreff: LF: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
=20
<div>=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div>Hi,<br>
</div>
If a chance arose for a powerful traditional MF beacon in Poland would it b=
e of interest, or has WSPR done away with the need for traditional beacons?=
<br>
<br>
</div>

<div>By powerful, it would be meant the full legal limit (1w!) into a half =
wave dipole mounted high above ground level (minimum 50m, but possibly in e=
xcess of 100m).<br>
<br>
</div>

<div>Your thoughts gentlemen<br>
<br>
</div>

<div>73s<br>
</div>

<div>Richard SO5GB</div>

<div><br>
=C2=A0</div>
</div>
  </div>
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