Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u011eS3q025321 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 2016 02:40:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aEocr-0003Ro-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 01:35:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aEocq-0003Rf-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 01:35:28 +0000 Received: from blu004-omc1s1.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aEobm-0005ep-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 01:35:27 +0000 Received: from BLU403-EAS202 ([65.55.116.9]) by BLU004-OMC1S1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 31 Dec 2015 17:34:04 -0800 X-TMN: [uqWsgftctvdfc0+AE9qv3dzHjccDMk7n] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: References: <56fbd96dd3b448f4847a30738d20b75a@kabelmail.de> From: Laurence KL7 L In-Reply-To: <56fbd96dd3b448f4847a30738d20b75a@kabelmail.de> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:34:02 -0900 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2016 01:34:04.0654 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FFA18E0:01D14434] X-Scan-Signature: b0c81be0f3328ec24fe2fd5b2fd44f86 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-74529B2E-F123-49E8-A7A8-117F26455353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AW: AW: Re: LF: 8270Hz X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6049 --Apple-Mail-74529B2E-F123-49E8-A7A8-117F26455353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy new year all. Uwe - I had a spoiler carrier up in 8270.02 to confirm rx stability for a wh= ile You'll see the screen bloom. I intend to put up a separate active loop for 8= .2kHz when the weather is more tolerable and mod the input match to the orig= inal m0bmu amp/filter.=20 My limitation are a noisy over head power line some 200m away which I cant m= itigate with the present tools.=20 Anyone ID the carrier/mod on 29.7kHz? Ive not put the df loop on it yet buti= t gets stronger at my dusk and fluttery due to solar stuff during the daytim= e... Laurence KL7L Palmer Wasilla Alaska > On Dec 31, 2015, at 2:24 PM, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote: >=20 > =20 > Last message was > Start 2015-12-31 21:55:00 > The other conditions as mentioned in the last email. > =20 > Attached wat I received without RX antenna > =20 > Uwe >=20 > Von: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de > Gesendet: 31.12.2015 20:05 > An: > Betreff: AW: Re: LF: 8270Hz > =20 >=20 > content of the message: > WX >=20 > thanks for analyzing >=20 > Uwe > =20 > Von: Paul Nicholson > Gesendet: 31.12.2015 18:18 > An: > Betreff: Re: LF: 8270Hz > =20 >=20 > Strong carrier again Uwe, >=20 > http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1451559600&b=3D080&s=3Dsp >=20 > > At the beginning a message: >=20 > > Start 2015-12-29 23:00:00 > > Period 10 > > Length 2 > > Duration 01:01:20:00 > > Bits 368 >=20 > I could not decode anything. The following carrier > measured 18.4 dB in one hour integration and the signal > calculator >=20 >=20 > http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=3D18.4&snbws=3D&snmps=3D3600&code=3D= 8K19&sp=3D10&crc=3D16&nc=3D2 >=20 > says that should give Eb/N0 of about 8dB. When I run the > carrier into the decoder it comes out well >=20 > vtraw -oa dj8wx.151229b.vt | > ebnaut -d -p8K19A -r240 -S10 -PS -N2 -v -c1 >=20 > initial reference phase 76.9 amplitude 2.991e-03 > prep [ 0 0 0 0 0] > found rank 0 ber 2.4457e-01 Eb/N0 8.9 M -1.063431501e-01 [**] > ps [ 0 0 0 0 0] > carrier phase: 7.5 > carrier Eb/N0: 7.8 > carrier S/N: 18.39 dB in 271.7 uHz > elapsed 5 >=20 > which agrees with the signal calculator. >=20 > With that strong signal, the message should have been an easy decode. >=20 > So, something is wrong with the modulation or bit clock. > If you tell me the message, I can analyse the signal. >=20 > I have been checking for your long carriers in very narrow bandwidth > at Forest VA (distance 6667.7 km) but so far no sign of anything. >=20 >=20 > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > =20 > --Apple-Mail-74529B2E-F123-49E8-A7A8-117F26455353 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 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