Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u04KJSo4004666 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 21:19:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aGBXD-00084M-3P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:15:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aGBXC-00084D-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:15:18 +0000 Received: from blu004-omc1s35.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aGBW8-0007Hp-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:15:17 +0000 Received: from BLU185-W11 ([65.55.116.7]) by BLU004-OMC1S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Mon, 4 Jan 2016 12:13:54 -0800 X-TMN: [dXfVpdfHuHkcrDyfeIfDIoE1+MJELJ1y] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Laurence KL7 L To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 11:13:54 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <568A4048.4000001@vsas.de>,<568A7620.7010506@gmx.de>,<568AC4A5.4030407@charter.net>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2016 20:13:54.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FAD0C40:01D1472C] X-Scan-Signature: c8ff00257edaad8e124ab9389da9609a Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_561efc43-bc8b-4bd5-bd0c-d512a2093255_" Subject: RE: LF: DL-SWL and WOLF X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6114 --_561efc43-bc8b-4bd5-bd0c-d512a2093255_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOLF(s) can still be heard from here in Alaska !- and got to be honest I ru= n the Decca directly at full chat direct from my HB transverter - but neve= r had complaints about spreading though I didn't have a lot of locals even = then in NE Oklahoma. =20 It was and still is a fine mode and the Gui model is easish to run as long= as you calibrate it correctly=2C even for me. =20 Im not sure there have been a lot of qso's but with John TAGs permission he= res how ours went down a few years back (ok more than a few years now) as X= DW my previous part 5 license over a 2100Kms plus path - Im still able to r= un it from here...the gear is the same here as it was in 2003/5 =20 http://www.w1tag.com/XDWQSO.htm =20 =20 Laurence KL7L WE2XPQ =20 =20 =20 Date: Mon=2C 4 Jan 2016 19:38:45 +0000 From: andy.g4jnt@gmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=3B rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Subject: Re: LF: DL-SWL Indeed - What happened to WOLF (*) ? I've just tried Googling (**) it and find practically no hits. The data mo= de seems to have been used successfully in the years around 2001 and on=2C= for a bit=2C but has faded. The URL I had for it is now gives the magic = 404. Didn't the first transatlantic contact on 137kHz use this mode? I guess that as it used 10 baud BPSK=2C was considered too complicated fo= r the average LF Op. to generate. No one seems to use upconversion from a= udio=2C and few seem to be able to make simple PSK encoders. Even for EBn= aut=2C relays are suggested as the means to reverse the phase (yes=2C true= ly !!). I suppose=2C to be fair=2C 10 baud unfiltered BPSK from a high p= ower transmitter is a bit unkind to other band users. Andy G4JNT (*) Weak signal Operation at LF(**) Other search engines are available - so= it has been said. On 4 January 2016 at 19:14=2C John Andrews wrote: For those who may be newer to this part of our hobby=2C Hartmut Wolff is so= mewhat of a legend in receiving TA signals in the 137 kHz band. Night after= night while others could only see Loran lines and the debris from DCF39=2C= Hartmut produced screenshots of some pretty weak North American signals. H= e also gave reports on the sadly-orphaned WOLF mode. As recently as last mo= nth=2C his 137.780 kHz grabber showed my signal on nights that it was invis= ible on the UK and other DL grabbers. = --_561efc43-bc8b-4bd5-bd0c-d512a2093255_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WOLF(s) can still =3Bbe hear= d from here in Alaska !- and got to be =3Bhonest I run the Decca direct= ly at full chat direct from my HB transverter -  =3Bbut never had compl= aints about spreading though I didn't have a lot of =3Blocals even then= in NE =3BOklahoma.
 =3B
 =3BIt was and still is a fine m= ode and the Gui model is easish to run as long as =3Byou calibrate it c= orrectly=2C even for me.
 =3B
Im not =3Bsure there have been = a lot of qso's but with John TAGs permission heres how ours went down a few= years back (ok more than a few years now) as XDW my previous part 5 licens= e =3Bover a 2100Kms plus path - Im still able to run it from here...the= gear =3B is the same here as it was in 2003/5
 =3B
http://www.w1tag.com/XDWQSO.htm =3B
 =3B
Laurence KL7L =3B WE2XPQ
 =3B
 = =3B

 =3B
Date: Mon=2C 4 Jan 2016= 19:38:45 +0000
From: andy.g4jnt@gmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org=3B rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: LF: DL-SWL
Indeed - =3B
What happened to WOLF  =3B(*) ?<= /div>

I've just tried Googling (**) it and find practica= lly no hits. =3B The data mode seems to have been used successfully &nb= sp=3Bin the years around 2001 and on=2C for a bit=2C but has faded.  = =3B The URL I had for it is now gives the magic 404. =3B Didn't the fir= st transatlantic contact on 137kHz use this mode?

= I guess that as it used 10 baud  =3BBPSK=2C  =3Bwas considered too = complicated for the average LF Op. to generate.  =3B No one seems to us= e upconversion from audio=2C and few seem to be able to make simple PSK enc= oders.  =3B Even for EBnaut=2C relays  =3Bare suggested as the mean= s to reverse the phase (yes=2C truely !!).  =3B  =3BI suppose=2C to= be fair=2C 10 baud unfiltered BPSK from a high power transmitter is a bit = unkind to other band users.

Andy  =3BG4JNT

(*) Weak signal Operation at LF
(**) Other = search engines are available - so it has been said.


On 4 January 2016 at 19:14=2C John Andrews <= =3Bw1tag@charter.net= >=3B wrote:
For those who may be newer to = this part of our hobby=2C Hartmut Wolff is somewhat of a legend in receivin= g TA signals in the 137 kHz band. Night after night while others could only= see Loran lines and the debris from DCF39=2C Hartmut produced screenshots = of some pretty weak North American signals. He also gave reports on the sad= ly-orphaned WOLF mode. As recently as last month=2C his 137.780 kHz grabber= showed my signal on nights that it was invisible on the UK and other DL gr= abbers.

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