Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB6B7SU8026883 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 12:07:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a5X6W-0003Xx-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:03:44 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a5X6W-0003Xo-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:03:44 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a5X5W-0000Bc-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 11:03:43 +0000 Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so129127771wme.0 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 03:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zuPKmp1oOz4ZIglNc/4NzEwq9ABoZH4Su/hiTxG743c=; b=msKkI7iettmqwcc750AbFWvI5v4JYgxvqWFKoojuNKtof/sH1F8d3bQQIV0P8quLjq FkaBOfj2xEgjd6fUd2h9YH+RWMor2U+3QYNWPUSv6GsD/3HAQOqOUlWh0NcOJ4qSuvT1 qM3ov9liu/isVXKDsr6kMdXKduAIYPbHXw2t90RoWL197Lxo51CRH4d+VhhctTCZwW8z TPFaxvFYATSqAFWf6NX4C2vUmpuT4+fAJU/Tu0GOJEzy5JkgAZ5zXgrW2BH+GULC6ZlQ Gmz3mFmMlHpAZ5wAtpHwCFWjj/QKh0wrUK/G91UsgWugLOILTNPnkwrM3WXWbSQG1Hi1 kcZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.89.137 with SMTP id n131mr15743068wmb.9.1449399741432; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 03:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.130.139 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 03:02:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <56640EE5.7040803@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 11:02:21 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut / Coherent PSK reception with SDR (-IQ) or similar radios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id tB6B7SU8026883 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5603 This is a synth that would do it - if you were to frig the VCO to go down to that frequency - and more to the point, could still get the MC45170 chip. http://www.g4jnt.com/VHF_Synth_Module.pdf These days there are not many synth chips that will work directly with low frequency RF inputs. Any number are out there with 500MHz minimum, but only a small subset have output dividers, so any PLL synth solution for HF often need sextra output dividers Andy G4JNT On 6 December 2015 at 10:46, Andy Talbot wrote: > I did it with a simple PLL > VCO running at 66.6...MHz divided by 30. 10MHz reference input divided by 3, > Phase comparator running at 333.333...kHz > > I used a superannuated obsolete MC145170 chip, but there are a > plethora of modern PLL chips out now that will do it for you. > Several types even have internal VCOs so you can have a one chip > solution (plus the programmer, of course) > > Andy G4JNT > > > On 6 December 2015 at 10:33, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: >> Greetings all, >> >> After trying a couple of modifications to my SDR-IQ, I found the following >> site .. >> >> http://g4hup.com/SDRlock.html >> >> .. which describes how to lock the 66.6667 MHz 'ADC clock' in the SDR-IQ to >> an external 10 MHz reference. >> >> Does anyone here have own experiences with this, or a similar circuit ? >> Dividing the 10 MHz reference by three, and subtracting that from 10 MHz >> multiplied by 7 sounds intriguing, but a multi-pole crystal ladder filter to >> 'clean up' the resulting 66.6666666 MHz signal is easier said than done >> (..lacking such crystals in the junk box). >> >> 73, >> Wolf DL4YHF . >> >>