Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB5MQckr020695 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:26:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a5LEM-0000NP-Vz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:23:02 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a5LEM-0000NG-IM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:23:02 +0000 Received: from blu004-omc1s1.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a5LDI-0006ZT-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:23:01 +0000 Received: from BLU185-W84 ([65.55.116.7]) by BLU004-OMC1S1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 5 Dec 2015 14:21:38 -0800 X-TMN: [j8VAN6lCZLIFMnH7mo3HjGnEHNDm/W4n] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Laurence KL7 L To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 13:21:38 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3E4DD4EAD220477DAA212DB7F977C9A2@malPC> References: <5662D3A1.7010108@lineone.net>,<3E4DD4EAD220477DAA212DB7F977C9A2@malPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2015 22:21:38.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F7C8A10:01D12FAB] X-Scan-Signature: bf9cd6b3d49c805062abf73a1027fea8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_10e0c9e3-d476-487f-b5dc-424fac370989_" Subject: RE: LF: wet match sticks X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5593 --_10e0c9e3-d476-487f-b5dc-424fac370989_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually Mal some of the rx dx records both on LF and MF have been with pse= udo high Z Joysticks a la Wet Match Sticks. I see recall the Joysticks PW = adverts for them for HF! My best performers here are W1VD AMRAD/L400b/PA0RDT nest of Eprobes up va= rious trees both of MF/LF but as ever very much location and noise source d= ependent=2C which together with having the real estate available... not so = much here.... I cant go up above tree height cos I would hit landing aircra= ft=2C or more likely they will hit me... My near quarter wave for 475 inverted L typically (typically cos it varies = on wave angle and noise source type/bearing at the time) doesnt afford bett= er s/n over a well placed wet match stick most of the time=2C nor is the 10= ft 30T passive loop nor 10ft diam active loop better - hey my ground resist= ivity/perm is dang poor here sitting on glacial till.. Looking forward to the day on seeing you coming in over the Pole Mal. Youv= e not managed to hit here in LF/ 475 MF yet but know you had a good signal = here on 160=3B Its not been favorable so far this winter... Best 73 for the seasonLaurence KL7L > From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sat=2C 5 Dec 2015 18:16:40 +0000 > Subject: Re: LF: Variation in my Rx signal reports on LF >=20 > Hugh > For acceptable results you need a REAL antenna. I notice that antennas in= =20 > use in the UK are useless for weak signal reception. Only one stn in the = UK=20 > can decode my signal. > For MF using the proverbial joy stick antennas are like using a match sti= ck=20 > dipped in water > mal/g3kev >=20 = --_10e0c9e3-d476-487f-b5dc-424fac370989_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually Mal some of the rx dx r= ecords both on LF and MF have been with pseudo high Z Joysticks a la Wet Ma= tch Sticks.  =3BI see recall the Joysticks PW adverts for them for HF!<= div>
My best performers here are  =3B W1VD AMRAD/L400b/PA= 0RDT nest of Eprobes up various trees both of MF/LF but as ever very much l= ocation and noise source dependent=2C which together with having the real e= state available... not so much here.... I cant go up above tree height cos = I would hit landing aircraft=2C or more likely they will hit me...

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My near quarter wave for 475 inverted L typically (typically cos= it varies on wave angle and noise source type/bearing at the time) doesnt = afford better s/n over a well placed wet match stick most of the time=2C no= r is the 10ft 30T passive loop nor 10ft diam active loop better - hey my gr= ound resistivity/perm is dang poor here sitting on glacial till..

<= /div>
Looking forward to the day on seeing you coming in over the Pole = Mal.  =3BYouve not managed to hit here in LF/ 475 MF yet but know you h= ad a good signal here on 160=3B  =3BIts not been favorable so far this = winter...

Best 73 for the season
Laurenc= e KL7L

>=3B From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
>=3B To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 5 Dec 2015 18:16:40 +0000
&= gt=3B Subject: Re: LF: Variation in my Rx signal reports on LF
>=3B >=3B Hugh
>=3B For acceptable results you need a REAL antenna. I n= otice that antennas in
>=3B use in the UK are useless for weak signal= reception. Only one stn in the UK
>=3B can decode my signal.
>= =3B For MF using the proverbial joy stick antennas are like using a match s= tick
>=3B dipped in water
>=3B mal/g3kev
>=3B
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