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From: Mal Hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:39:14 +0000
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: wet match sticks
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Laurence
Joy sticks are no substitute for the real thing
Not at my QTH anyway, no noise around me so plenty of wire airborne works fo=
r me.
I am able to hear and see more than the others. It does require effort thoug=
h.
Very little DX escapes me
73 es GL
Mal/g3kev


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On 5 Dec 2015, at 22:21, Laurence KL7 L <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wro=
te:

> Actually Mal some of the rx dx records both on LF and MF have been with ps=
eudo high Z Joysticks a la Wet Match Sticks.  I see recall the Joysticks PW a=
dverts for them for HF!
>=20
> My best performers here are   W1VD AMRAD/L400b/PA0RDT nest of Eprobes up v=
arious trees both of MF/LF but as ever very much location and noise source d=
ependent, which together with having the real estate available... not so muc=
h here.... I cant go up above tree height cos I would hit landing aircraft, o=
r more likely they will hit me...
>=20
> My near quarter wave for 475 inverted L typically (typically cos it varies=
 on wave angle and noise source type/bearing at the time) doesnt afford bett=
er s/n over a well placed wet match stick most of the time, nor is the 10ft 3=
0T passive loop nor 10ft diam active loop better - hey my ground resistivity=
/perm is dang poor here sitting on glacial till..
>=20
> Looking forward to the day on seeing you coming in over the Pole Mal.  You=
ve not managed to hit here in LF/ 475 MF yet but know you had a good signal h=
ere on 160;  Its not been favorable so far this winter...
>=20
> Best 73 for the season
> Laurence KL7L
>=20
> > From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 18:16:40 +0000
> > Subject: Re: LF: Variation in my Rx signal reports on LF
> >=20
> > Hugh
> > For acceptable results you need a REAL antenna. I notice that antennas i=
n=20
> > use in the UK are useless for weak signal reception. Only one stn in the=
 UK=20
> > can decode my signal.
> > For MF using the proverbial joy stick antennas are like using a match st=
ick=20
> > dipped in water
> > mal/g3kev
> >=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Laurence</div><div>Joy sticks are no s=
ubstitute for the real thing</div><div>Not at my QTH anyway, no noise around=
 me so plenty of wire airborne works for me.</div><div>I am able to hear and=
 see more than the others. It does require effort though.</div><div>Very lit=
tle DX escapes me</div><div>73 es GL</div><div>Mal/g3kev</div><div><br><br>S=
ent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 5 Dec 2015, at 22:21, Laurence KL7 L &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">hellozerohellozero@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Actually Mal some of the rx dx records both on LF and MF ha=
ve been with pseudo high Z Joysticks a la Wet Match Sticks. &nbsp;I see reca=
ll the Joysticks PW adverts for them for HF!<div><br></div><div>My best perf=
ormers here are &nbsp; W1VD AMRAD/L400b/PA0RDT nest of Eprobes up various tr=
ees both of MF/LF but as ever very much location and noise source dependent,=
 which together with having the real estate available... not so much here...=
. I cant go up above tree height cos I would hit landing aircraft, or more l=
ikely they will hit me...<div><br></div><div>My near quarter wave for 475 in=
verted L typically (typically cos it varies on wave angle and noise source t=
ype/bearing at the time) doesnt afford better s/n over a well placed wet mat=
ch stick most of the time, nor is the 10ft 30T passive loop nor 10ft diam ac=
tive loop better - hey my ground resistivity/perm is dang poor here sitting o=
n glacial till..<div><br></div><div>Looking forward to the day on seeing you=
 coming in over the Pole Mal. &nbsp;Youve not managed to hit here in LF/ 475=
 MF yet but know you had a good signal here on 160; &nbsp;Its not been favor=
able so far this winter...</div><div><br></div><div>Best 73 for the season</=
div><div>Laurence KL7L<br><br><div>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@tal=
ktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net</a><br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>&gt; Date: Sat, 5 D=
ec 2015 18:16:40 +0000<br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Variation in my Rx signal re=
ports on LF<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hugh<br>&gt; For acceptable results you need a R=
EAL antenna. I notice that antennas in <br>&gt; use in the UK are useless fo=
r weak signal reception. Only one stn in the UK <br>&gt; can decode my signa=
l.<br>&gt; For MF using the proverbial joy stick antennas are like using a m=
atch stick <br>&gt; dipped in water<br>&gt; mal/g3kev<br>&gt; <br></div></di=
v></div></div> 		 	   		  </div>
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