Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB1FSW3X001757 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:28:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a3mnQ-0005zs-PS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 15:24:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a3mnQ-0005zj-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 15:24:48 +0000 Received: from s16315160.onlinehome-server.info ([87.106.80.234] helo=mail.vigilant.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a3mmN-0003YL-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 15:24:47 +0000 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([87.216.178.132]) by vigilant.es with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:22:54 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:23:13 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Thread-Index: AdEp+uYLacwndmH9Q2i3zxwn+RVSMwAH5HDH///3/QCAAYriTIAADWcAgAAUZLH///PUgIAAFiCF///4FoCAABTJ2YAAA0GAgACWtQ////iZAP//uXvA//8oiQD//jocMP/8eekA//jHUQv/8MHoe//hOyaA/8JG73E= Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:12 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29A72B@servigilant.vigilant.local> References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299841@servigilant.vigilant.local>,,<579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299A20@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299D22@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<0D650B732F9241869EC3A05D0677466F@AGB> In-Reply-To: <0D650B732F9241869EC3A05D0677466F@AGB> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [95.17.56.239] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: a067d22ee744b562a83fb3595930cdf7 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29A72Bservigilantvigi_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5483 --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29A72Bservigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Graham, there we are ! ;-) 0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from EA5CV which were a= bout -25dB are nill now Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will get some spots= from EA5CV and EA2HB during the night, but for >1000Km paths it will be very hard, depending on propaga= tion conditions and noise floor WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to 0,01w Make your bet ! ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= en nombre de Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Getting there Luis ! Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH , Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good , you need = to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with 8% fade , but, signal = must be holding up ... 73-G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi MF Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation conditions lowere= d extra dBs Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search -37dB from S= V8CS-5 at 1819Km 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz wi= th 0.05w + Vert 11+80m 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Devon 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB in Zakynthos = 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir 1519,0 Hz with 0= .05w + Vert 11+80m In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 0 IM= 98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt 1556 39 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM= 98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux 1419 348 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 0 IM= 98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355 Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? :-O Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= en nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez [luis@vigilant.es] Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Let's go step by step 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= en nombre de Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment .. May be 10 dB at least ! G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi Graham, MF Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really outstanding :-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at 7Km when injecting = -33dBm Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from DH5RAE and DJ0= ABR 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt 1556 39 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol 59 261 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39 I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it when I get home = in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx power indicator and Opera info to notice the ch= ange 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de Graham Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Luis That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought you where run= ning QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji 73-G, >From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB All OP8 decodes from psk-map EA5DOM SO5AS 600m OPERA 2210 km 18:10:11 EA5DOM SV8CS-5 600m OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 SV8CS EA5DOM 600m OPERA 1819 km 19:20:11 EA5DOM EI8JK 600m OPERA 1633 km 18:46:12 EA5DOM G8HUH 600m OPERA 1430 km 18:22:12 EA5DOM G3XKR 600m OPERA 1420 km 23:10:11 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Thank you Tony That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) Thank you for keeping your monitor working 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony Baldwi= n Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try differen= t power levels again. 73, Tony, EI8JK --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29A72Bservigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Graham, there we are ! ;-)

0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW

Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from EA5CV which w= ere about -25dB are nill now

Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will get some = spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during
the night, but for >1000Km paths it will be very hard, depending on= propagation conditions and noise floor

WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to 0,01w

Make your bet ! ;-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co= .uk]
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Getting there  Luis !
 
Your 6 dB  in hand  with  G3XKR ,   may be mo= re with G8HUH ,
 
Go for the  big  1-0    TEN   =  mW , the  stats are not  good ,  you  need  = to  get a  peak  aligned with the  qsb , but  with=    8% fade , but, signal must be  holding  up ...
 
73-G,

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Hi MF

Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation conditions lowere= d extra dBs

Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search -37dB f= rom SV8CS-5 at 1819Km

00:34    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in= Albir 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
00:34    477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Dev= on

01:47    477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 d= B in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
01:46    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Alb= ir 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m

In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from:

2015-12-01 03:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -27   0   IM98wn   0.02   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39 
2015-11-30 22:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -29   0   IM98wn   0.02   DJ0ABR   JN68nt   1556   39
2015-12-01 03:00   EA5DOM   0.475608   -30   0   IM98wn   0.02   G3XKR   IO70ux   1419   348
2015-11-30 23:12   EA5DOM   0.475608   -22   0   IM98wn   0.02   F5WK   IN99ef   1192   355

Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? :-O=

Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! 

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez [lu= is@vigilant.es]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Let's go step by step

3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW

Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [own= er-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.= uk]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

..  May be   10 dB at  least !
 
G,

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Hi Graham, MF
 
Yes. The efficiency of this anten= na setup is really outstanding  :-O
I can clearly see the signal= on my monitor waterfall at 7Km when injecting -33dBm
 
Just a= t sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from DH5RAE and DJ0ABR
 
2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475608   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   DJ0ABR   JN68nt   1556   39 
 2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475614   -22   0   IM98wn   0.05   EA5CV   IM98ol   59   261 
 2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -31   0   IM98wn   0.05   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39 
 
I have the 3dB atenuator ready to= be installed. Will do it when I get home in a couple of hours
and will change the WSPR tx power= indicator and Opera info to notice the change
&= nbsp;
73 de Lu= is
EA5DOM=
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Luis
 
That's just 'a silly ,   -18 dB   with  G8HUH= ,  I thought  you  where  running  QRP, that's&nb= sp; close to  20 dB  QRO  jiji
 
73-G,
 
 
From EA5DOM by G8HUH=  Loc IO81MG
Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB
 
All OP8  decodes from  psk-map
 
EA5DOM SO5AS 600m OPERA 2210 km 18:10:11
EA5DOM SV8CS-5= 600m OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12
SV8CS EA5DOM<= /a> 600m OPERA 1819 km 19:20:11
EA5DOM EI8JK 600m OPERA 1633 km 18:46:12
EA5DOM G8HUH 600m OPERA 1430 km 18:22:12
EA5DOM G3XKR 600m OPERA 1420 km 23:10:11
 
 
 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Thank you Tony
 
That explains the radical propaga= tion change ! :-)
 
Thank you for keeping your monito= r working
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de Tony Baldwin
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc.
I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try differen= t power levels again.
73, Tony, EI8JK
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