Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB30HUm5005556 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2015 01:17:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a4HWZ-0004AW-3x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:13:27 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a4HWY-0004AN-MU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:13:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a4HVU-00018G-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:13:25 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.24]) by mwinf5d24 with ME id ooC31r00E0XUtMb03oC43X; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 01:12:04 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 01:12:04 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.24 Message-ID: <1522E69F2FF541568B5471CE220FF07D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299841@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299A20@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299D22@servigilant.vigilant.local> <0D650B732F9241869EC3A05D0677466F@AGB> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29A72B@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29AB88@servigilant.vigilant.local> <56DC194EC9AF4E648D1D6B4F405A6554@Clemens0811> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29AC40@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29AEEF@servigilant.vigilant.local> <89A1441148014E09A123186C72446AED@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 00:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: a832015f9681fcc6d4e2835ba174a7e7 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5513 Rx at Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:46:11 GMT >From EA5DOM by G3XKR Loc IO70UX Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -31dB Distance: 1418 km bearing 348° Using: Opera v1.5.4/Rptr V1.6 Antenna: RX Op8 V 1-5-4 pre dynamic ? 73-G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony Baldwin" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:25 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > I'm on 477 opera as well as 474.2 WSPR > I shall leave it monitoring both all night > 73, Tony, EI8JK > > On 02-Dec-15 19:08, Graham wrote: >> Still big signals Luis ! >> >> We know from the Vampire tests , what should happen, but , there is no >> accurate way of telling who is actually running Rx on 477 now, >> since the psk-map changed the housekeeping routines ... >> >> Im Rx 477 at the moment , only see your local decode's at the >> moment >> >> 73-G, >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:51 AM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >>> No more DX last night at 11mW >>> >>> One spot from F5WK and many more from Andy F1AFJ >>> >>> Maxi, EA5CV got a few at -28dB and being just 60Km away but with a sub >>> optimal Rx >>> No other EA station got copy >>> >>> No Opera spots. Monitors were too far, probably >>> >>> There were few TA spots across north atlantic. So, conditions were not >>> bad >>> Will keep Txing at this power level untill finishing the PA install at >>> terrace >>> >>> 73 de Luis >>> EA5DOM >>> ________________________________________ >>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 23:11 >>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>> Wellcome to the 11mW challenge, Clemens :-) >>> >>> F5WK joined the party with just one spot but breaking the distance mark >>> to 1192km >>> >>> 2015-12-01 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98wn >>> 0.01 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355 >>> >>> Andy has 8 spots so far. And one as good as -20dB !! >>> >>> 2015-12-01 21:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -20 0 IM98wn >>> 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>> >>> You are at 1515Km. A real edge for such a weak signal ?? >>> >>> 73 de Luis >>> EA5DOM >>> ________________________________________ >>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Clemens Paul >>> [cpaul@gmx.net] >>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 22:54 >>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Asunto: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>> Hello Luis, >>> >>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of >>>> room for Opera Deep Search spots >>>> >>>> Any other taker ? >>> >>> I'll give it a try tonight. >>> RX and WSPR are running now. >>> I know I can compete with DH5RAE and DJ0ABR regarding WSPR spots >>> (RX-wise). >>> I'm also quite out in the sticks... >>> >>> 73 >>> Clemens >>> DL4RAJ >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of >>>> VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:17 PM >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Wow. We have a winner >>>> >>>> Congratulations Andy ! Fantastic spots -25dB using only 11mW here >>>> >>>> 2015-12-01 19:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>> 919 4 >>>> 2015-12-01 19:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>> 919 4 >>>> >>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of >>>> room for Opera Deep Search spots >>>> >>>> Any other taker ? >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT >>>> Luis Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 16:23 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> OK Graham, there we are ! ;-) >>>> >>>> 0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW >>>> >>>> Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from EA5CV >>>> which were about -25dB are nill now >>>> >>>> Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will >>>> get some spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during >>>> the night, but for >1000Km paths it will be very hard, >>>> depending on propagation conditions and noise floor >>>> >>>> WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to 0,01w >>>> >>>> Make your bet ! ;-) >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> Getting there Luis ! >>>> >>>> Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH , >>>> >>>> Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good , >>>> you need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with >>>> 8% fade , but, signal must be holding up ... >>>> >>>> 73-G, >>>> >>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Hi MF >>>> >>>> Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation >>>> conditions lowered extra dBs >>>> >>>> Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search >>>> -37dB from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km >>>> >>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir >>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Devon >>>> >>>> 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB >>>> in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>> 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir >>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>> >>>> In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: >>>> >>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>> 1576 39 >>>> >>>> 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>> 1556 39 >>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux >>>> 1419 348 >>>> 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192 >>>> 355 >>>> >>>> Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? :-O >>>> >>>> Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT >>>> Luis Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> Let's go step by step >>>> >>>> 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW >>>> >>>> Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> .. May be 10 dB at least ! >>>> >>>> G, >>>> >>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> >>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>> >>>> Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really outstanding :-O >>>> I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at 7Km >>>> when injecting -33dBm >>>> >>>> Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from >>>> DH5RAE and DJ0ABR >>>> >>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>> 1556 39 >>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol >>>> 59 261 >>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 >>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>> 1576 39 >>>> >>>> I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it >>>> when I get home in a couple of hours >>>> and will change the WSPR tx power indicator and Opera info to >>>> notice the change >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham >>>> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought >>>> you where running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji >>>> >>>> 73-G, >>>> >>>> >>>> From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG >>>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB >>>> >>>> All OP8 decodes from psk-map >>>> >>>> EA5DOM SO5AS >>>> 600m OPERA >>>> 2210 km 18:10:11 >>>> EA5DOM >>>> SV8CS-5 600m >>>> OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 >>>> SV8CS EA5DOM >>>> 600m OPERA >>>> 1819 km 19:20:11 >>>> EA5DOM EI8JK >>>> 600m OPERA >>>> 1633 km 18:46:12 >>>> EA5DOM G8HUH >>>> 600m OPERA >>>> 1430 km 18:22:12 >>>> EA5DOM G3XKR >>>> 600m OPERA >>>> 1420 km 23:10:11 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> >>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Thank you Tony >>>> >>>> That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) >>>> >>>> Thank you for keeping your monitor working >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> >>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony Baldwin >>>> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> >>>> Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. >>>> I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to >>>> try different power levels again. >>>> 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >