Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tBQD3qkb012860 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:03:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aCoQD-0006Oi-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:58:09 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aCoQC-0006OZ-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:58:08 +0000 Received: from nm20-vm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.96.249]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aCoP3-0008UN-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:58:07 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.co.uk Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s2048; t=1451134601; bh=9gtZyv0upNu9VF/sSZUMDhRubnsxVN33omuZlZUKXBg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=jy3sYSzDs6fp7XfCr2kl1XtpqHK16B4NIMBO7r5VR7wT43nGsKAPLhmH0pyob8u6Ld2ffcfZgbeGdgggeGy8Aq3Ajj160AAdh2SxFkF/EUc3R1EUpQQkrlWjqApneHVeUFno5ISo0avXgGEVSbujla6mUL5f5X6CLI3dtIfmA5fT7PWTKZ/M6XFEULPwTEZ+Ni5YjwAlleI8o54jwx3whB8AFXEQMQVaoQCBLmmHRHOSWB3Z4F6Ef0vSG8vNKbUCamsap7PvGVhDBgymH6QX6Tf/co9CysKyN5OyygxGW5pu53pPx8oOLTX2TDHvVkqCCZgNcUhXbVKVH8ZTorVPtw== Received: from [212.82.98.52] by nm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2015 12:56:41 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.109] by tm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2015 12:56:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2015 12:56:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 671719.59633.bm@omp1046.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: 5yJuEsQVM1l8EWaOvEEUVai.H9lCNVHrUERaNzrvXZjPUTvixHJ4QKfHXUyXvK1 wdTeF91.I7QBkd3XK20uEM6s8GMowLm9W0xlJ2Am0PxSIBXc54HcaF2keZht0rlXyPkxg1duFtTH bov9AfASnyg.yBnW52_6QmYfmEjImOMfF4azuGd_TIC_7C77mpagHLW_4WHKWwr6ZCFj8qzLLi6C gXB2M_SODT9tXhDKXUsLApi4TMJ9KIE3G8ziZ7v6LlfN_KW.VYJCLTpJiioPxqGuiSvficurgkas fV1DAced9qOA9KaWsWuX9JAxADoJKkpt.hnjgHwNrpavZqCR1Oj51yH.rLstD8a7iqmh23UJpYiS pMWzP3biMUYOVVPGBwl2VjV92_L_9o4SjrnTsG8ABl3n2I5T9KZhNuagnH9Si9BiK966hrERRmja X.k9obmdNaGfXbZcIoMPmo2JmPoPuUAsxlrE3OUIHUnjw7YRmAOR7TXzvCIj85I29H6lqb8C0An5 nGjddCrw- Received: by 217.12.9.15; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:56:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:56:40 +0000 (UTC) From: M0FMT To: Message-ID: <1386688153.5584082.1451134600541.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1386688153.5584082.1451134600541.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Scan-Signature: 17343f7e400f1005b5081acbd4115359 Subject: Re: LF: digi es CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id tBQD3qkb012860 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5984 Hi all seasons greetings Old Joe Taylor PhD Nobel Lariat of Princeton Uni. has al lot to answer for IMHO. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 26/12/15, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: Subject: Re: LF: digi es CW To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 26 December, 2015, 10:46 Reminds me of my early days on HF, with other hams on the local VHF repeater while comparing low-band antennas. "Now I can hear a japanese station on 160. He's very strong with my new antenna." "Here, too. What did you think. But I can also hear three ZL's and four VKs in the background". .. etc etc. If you know exactly who's out there, where and when, you can also hear him without any difficulty.  Similar applies to smart black boxes. 73, happy christmas and hope to cul via real airwaves,     Wolf . Am 25.12.2015 um 19:33 schrieb Jacek Lipkowski: > On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, mal hamilton wrote: > >> DIGI MODES >> Fall asleep over the keyboard >> Go for Xmas Dinner >> Go down the pub and get drunk >> Sleep for a week > > Little does he know that the magical black box spawns radio waves no > more! The collector current is zero due to a burnt out fuse. Only > miliwatts from the driver make their way to the antenna. Only the > nearest stations decode it. > > But look: Christmas is a magical time and anything can happen. The > digital mode is sent by a closed-source application. There is no > formal documentation from the author and we can't look at the source. > Since we really don't know what it does, the author implemented yet > another trick to show long range decodes. The transmitting station's > application covertly sends this data to the author's server. Randomly, > with very low probability the author's server commands the receivng > station's programs to decode the station even if nothing is being > received. > > "Look! I'm being decoded in Australia! The ultimate MF DX!" screams > the digital operator, seeing his christmas wish come true. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > PS. the receiver didn't work either, but we have good propagation on > the internet today > >