Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAINAiZu002759 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 00:10:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZzBp9-0007S3-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:07:35 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZzBp9-0007Rr-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:07:35 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzBoG-0004xa-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:07:33 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tAIN6GBZ029638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:36:21 -0330 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:36:16 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <9FB2E29A7CB342428BE0AF663FA8A4A8@White> Message-ID: References: <8D2EABAF0379B74-9084-3D874@webmail-vd017.sysops.aol.com> <8D2EB5632CCBBF3-2188-4C745@webmail-vd012.sysops.aol.com> <9FB2E29A7CB342428BE0AF663FA8A4A8@White> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 0a4643e586472c13187d293ec5d096c2 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA frequency Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5161 Hi Markus, You've found my problem I think. The 32 bit frequency word was correct for 137.777 but one bit low for 137.477 kHz. Today the DOXCO was restored to its original calibration and the bit error corrected. Now I've further humiliated myself by blaming oscillator drift for what was my round down instead of round to nearest integer mistake! Both freqs should now be within about 250 uHz. Your OPDS tonight showed 137.477000 kHz and so the 50s phase shift experiments on 137.777 have resumed... but I expect to be humbled yet again unless 20 mHz sidebands appear tonight! Thanks for keeping me on track. 73 Joe On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Markus Vester wrote: > Joe, > > well maybe the "crystal drift" is not the whole story... I measured both your Op-32 and QRSS transmissions (nominally on 137477 and 137777 Hz respectively), before and after the OCXO tweak. Opera has been -0.7 mHz before and is now closer to nominal (~ -0.1 mHz). However on Nov 9 the QRSS has been only slightly below nominal (-0.17 mHz), and the tweak has moved it up to +0.44 mHz. So the offset seems to depend on the selected frequency. > > I wonder if you are using a binary DDS, which would be expected to show a frequency-dependent error due to the finite stepsize (e.g. 10MHz/2^32)? Anyway this won't be a problem for EbNaut, as long as the offset is known and constant. >