Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAHGTFDX030912 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:29:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zyj46-0000rJ-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:25:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zyj45-0000rA-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:25:05 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zyj31-0007aX-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:25:04 +0000 Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so161191332wmw.1 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/cY+DvS+R8w1wfTdlpIb1EuEqURulOF9wc+AuuEVXpU=; b=ZVVsSo5kDBQue40EPx0aDmulov3ERASs75fQm5IXrSs9cnSXYZLj9oiraEmLvhbJvP CvvNyGW/wfIZIs2E12Hcjt4hP2WM1xgKj75DvvSs+in2f1PZhfC/VoPGfauZUa6iyRHx F6vjjTxq2JrgXfwOMMnw9fd4Vp7BUw9czxzmgjd2FyPUAdG9GN2V5mC0UHtX+xAIY4QW estbtFYs66L1rsYKHPFKtzQ/9ItU4BFRkYHm90Blob0nZTjHSNCS8gosHFDY+E2jdCF4 NnGKWM8d0iL+0M2obgt4zexGP8/94ZuVAXQrOZYNSVJ6ui+iIiRfcWLCpNGHMvxyURrp Ypag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.15.194 with SMTP id 185mr3921796wmp.9.1447777423683; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.130.139 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:23:43 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk X-Scan-Signature: 66d07794ca19cd68f7d6cc289cd4ac18 Subject: LF: Re: EbNaut test transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11469edc0d7abd0524bef3b1 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5117 --001a11469edc0d7abd0524bef3b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Its still going. At 1611z I ran rsNTP and it made a PC clock adjustment of 0.4 seconds, which with the 0.5s symbols used for this transmission will glitch slightly . Pleased to note that a local recording I made using the new LF Receiver hardware and my own software to generate a .WAV file compatible with Spectrum Lab's did generate a valid decode. Recorded at fs = 31.25Hz That was before the PC time had been corrected and I had to do a fair bit of shuffling with the Start Offset value to get a decode. Values from 0.45s to 0.85s worked - much of that presumably due to the PC time offset in the transmission. But once a value in that range had been entered, zero decode errors - which is what one would expect of a very strong local copy ! It does appear that using EbNaut with rates much faster that 2S/s could end up very fraught with timing offsets. Fortunately, weak signalling with longer symbols of several seconds will have less of a problem with timing offsets. Andy G4JNT --001a11469edc0d7abd0524bef3b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its still going.
At 1611z I ran rsNTP and it made a PC clock adjustment of 0.4 seconds, whi= ch with the 0.5s symbols used=C2=A0for this transmission will glitch slight= ly=C2=A0.

Pleased to note that=C2=A0a local record= ing I made using the=C2=A0 new LF Receiver hardware and my own software to = generate a .WAV file compatible with Spectrum Lab's did generate a vali= d decode. Recorded at fs =3D 31.25Hz=C2=A0 That was before the PC time had = been corrected and I had to do a fair bit of shuffling with the Start Offse= t value to get a decode.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Values from 0.45s to 0.85s worked - mu= ch of that presumably due to the PC time offset in the transmission.=C2=A0= =C2=A0 But once a value in that range had been entered, zero decode errors = - which is what one would expect of a very strong local copy !
It does appear that using EbNaut with rates much faster that 2= S/s could end up very fraught with timing offsets.=C2=A0 Fortunately, weak = signalling with longer symbols of several seconds=C2=A0will=C2=A0have less = of a problem=C2=A0with timing offsets.


Andy=C2= =A0 G4JNT


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