Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA8JDH7e010370 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:13:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZvVLZ-0007Re-L2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:09:49 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZvVLZ-0007RV-Bb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:09:49 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvVKV-00078n-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:09:48 +0000 Received: by wiby19 with SMTP id y19so3984763wib.0 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1D23hEDC6f08XtmLRQvwnqearOJbbapKWmf3WjTsMEU=; b=GJmOAEIXtUC5wBLB6t1YIFwtMLVZAKZgqomrxezhNjbkKFPzOQ0ELhi6d2O4tE4SRj tFTxmPCszDZUd5GUZKTBvREObBsL1yJBH5L3U6ymy+dkxdoWTF1kfi4xgaGJ0X5jMLz9 M9rcCMtnQ/4Lnhnp3xN8SqAj8EqK7OCDYnoeMxzwS4L4dzv5Z4Spi0hwqEYcCjjI18CL 2EDW7471PuJIpP40TskzNl7QxGSrnXD3+2ZvyTNqrs2FQ17q1okbI/bdFZ3t+gHDfZQY rBkM87KzR/LTkqfDdEJsKGD/gkfUd3Dx5SSt9V69ljaiJo8FDEaU6iVQ2+uQoeTEl2eO ZvLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.62.15 with SMTP id u15mr28757522wjr.18.1447009703482; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.183.139 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk X-Scan-Signature: 4b5b5ebe37a4c4f430f59bc35c1947b0 Subject: LF: MSF Oddities Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba9750a5ce33e05240c334f X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4911 --047d7ba9750a5ce33e05240c334f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've been using the MSF 60khz signal as a test source for cohernet LF Rx development. And in doign so I've noticed a couple of oddities First was tonight, see http://www.g4jnt.com/DownLoad/MSF_Log2.jpg where it appears to have dropped for a few minutes round about 1715z. I didn't catch this in real time to check and only saw the plot afterwards, but fail to see how that could be a software glitch that recovered so perfectly afterwards. Also note the reduction in power around 1800. I spotted this yesterday too - and that was confirmed by listening on another receiver. The signal really was several dB weaker after, AFAIR, about 1800 ish. So it looks as if they may drop the power after dark when propagation is expected to be at its best. Once again, blame the VE2ZAZ GPSDO for the phase shift of something like 40 degrees over 2 hours. That corresponds to only 2.5* 10^-10 at 60kHz , but is very noticeable on plots such as this. Andy G4JNT --047d7ba9750a5ce33e05240c334f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been using the MSF 60khz signal as a test source = for cohernet LF Rx development. =C2=A0 And in doign so I've noticed a c= ouple of oddities

First was tonight, see=C2=A0http://www.g4jnt.com/DownLoad/= MSF_Log2.jpg =C2=A0 where it appears to have dropped for a few minutes = round about 1715z.=C2=A0 I didn't catch this in real time to check and = only saw the plot afterwards, but fail to see how that could be a software = glitch that recovered so perfectly afterwards.

Als= o note the reduction in power around 1800. =C2=A0 I spotted this yesterday = too - and that was confirmed by listening on another receiver.=C2=A0 The si= gnal really was several dB weaker after, AFAIR, about 1800 ish. =C2=A0 =C2= =A0So it looks as if they may drop the power after dark when propagation is= expected to be at its best.

Once again, blame the= VE2ZAZ GPSDO for the phase shift of something like 40 degrees over 2 hours= .=C2=A0 That =C2=A0corresponds to only 2.5* 10^-10 at 60kHz , but is very n= oticeable on plots such as this.

Andy =C2=A0G4JNT<= /div>
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