Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tASGVJXZ029143 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:31:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a2iMC-0004HF-3A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:28:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a2iMB-0004H6-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:28:15 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a2iL7-0008Rs-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:28:14 +0000 Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so88997605wmw.0 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HJLZ1WgmiFhWT8gwxEs3QKH60cCOFUWjxnqyiHYYl54=; b=WzyLA7HH2jbr1CNjs2h9/nNSmZ9nvAOtPftaYyqhq+166Aw1vnhuwSiFP6uN7wPcLe 5rOoppHBJwUZNnWoAcNQ1gGiDdKin1rH6NUQMHA4jIZUN7Oc8TKt2zninvYtGbFqitzg Lt5L+5kPIM0L8bneHOqkJ9je95UaVLvat8+93XBLeOMgiVzVrHJeilw2Kh29YXlAlU+s LZgDvr0aWwKznek7OZQDjlxlo9i3OzdWkyAMkpEsRbDWc5X78siADb9Ll/u+/NodERKR Bf+++g1O/X0XeaaNbOccf9OVF/h5UuO+TB9jElZHNDqgNFuoVjDVaTuiHgTSHx4UXrD6 +B6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.225.84 with SMTP id y81mr18322953wmg.87.1448728014958; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.130.139 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:26:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <56587F40.5070709@posteo.de> <87FFCE57-D2D7-4616-B5E8-B84CD819C685@talktalk.net> <5658E894.6090208@posteo.de> <82B8809C-36E5-4731-8A4B-002BD4465B12@talktalk.net> <5658EE97.2020107@posteo.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: ac0f6ff1af52b6036ac1f4fe0c2bd52c Subject: Re: 3 phase (was LF: G3KEV) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b1440b53a3505259c4686 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5391 --001a114b1440b53a3505259c4686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What's wrong with that ? Sounds an excellent idea for a QRO transmitter. 300Hz ripple - much easier to filter out. My 137kHz Tx runs from rectified (single phase) mains - the isolation is provided in the ferrite output transformer and FET drive pot-core A school we once went around with long leads and an AVO identifying sockets to be found on all three of the phases. That was so that, using extension leads, we could bring them all into the lab to get a three phase motor running. Such interesting things could be done in schools in the 1970's Andy G4JNT On 28 November 2015 at 15:52, John Rabson wrote: > > In the early days of 73 kHz I believe a Luxembourg station built a > transmitter which was powered off full-wave rectified three-phase mains > without an isolating transformer. NOT the best way of doing things! > > John F5VLF > --001a114b1440b53a3505259c4686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What's wrong with that ?
Sounds an excellent idea = for a QRO transmitter. =C2=A0 300Hz ripple - much easier to filter out.

My 137kHz Tx runs from rectified (single phase) mains - the= isolation is provided in the ferrite output transformer and FET drive pot-= core

A school we once went around with long = leads and an AVO =C2=A0identifying sockets to be found on all three of the = phases.=C2=A0 That was so that, using extension leads, we could bring them = all into the lab to get a three phase motor running. =C2=A0 Such interestin= g things could be done in schools in the 1970's

Andy G4JNT


On 28 November 2015 at 15:52, John Rabson <john.rab= son07@gmail.com> wrote:
In the early days of 73 kHz I believe a Luxembourg station built a transmit= ter which was powered off full-wave rectified three-phase mains without an = isolating transformer. NOT the best way of doing things!

John F5VLF
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