Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAEJRqTp002063 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:27:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxgRl-0006hi-Kl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:25:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxgRl-0006hY-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:25:13 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxgQd-0006LY-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:25:12 +0000 Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so66003927wmw.1 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:23:47 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v/MUa0bweV8EQYwhz5xTASjsdWk1gdG7wXtO7Lnmtlw=; b=aeIiVdJ5D89LvVr49BMVfsV7xjPf5oaktVBErL5vzvtXFkfeR4Nd7Y4TWCa7A6ayzF BiNGeI91Q0zCfIDu6xIwenxZ1UHkkHAUqL+JOznr3xxJNFl2YnINjTCElXjfNmvrf42g xT+DyxvXnXoX81fsYkjOM6ChI6YTU4KPo4iEAaM/1BW+5WvA0dLFqbGFmC7RQnzLpTuJ cmTvf5X2iPWxs44ug6quMltpKmwLVDyv7+pivGFCMDfbEEG7U4Chp7ZhVibJNlXQiAj8 2xy++XjiNv20iFajuP9yJsuEgV8GMyXTXZFPMP34odsMU/TlmBTi+w+DXly8ubc+1lN7 +F3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.87.230 with SMTP id bb6mr28134144wjb.157.1447529027120; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.130.139 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:23:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4510637253.20151114190626@chriswilson.tv> References: <4510637253.20151114190626@chriswilson.tv> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:23:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 4d97240a623a26620214cd27feaa9f71 Subject: Re: LF: Valve LF amps and tank coil size / voltage rating? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfe954276b38d0524851db7 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5072 --047d7bfe954276b38d0524851db7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'll say it again V = 4.44.F.N.A.B (all SI units) THAT is how you size ferrite cores. It tells you more or less everything you need to know to make ferrite transformers. Keep B to less than 0.1 at these frequencies But.. why would you want to use valves? Expensive, unreliable, high voltages... 'jnt On 14 November 2015 at 19:06, Chris Wilson wrote: > 14 November 2015 > > > If you built a decent power valve LF amp what is the realistic voltage > limit to ferrite cored tank circuits? In other words, what plate > voltage / current is the limit for say a ferrite cored toroidal coil > before you have to move on to an air cored (very large?) tank coil? > Anyone have any links to the limiting figures? All the highish power > valved LF amps I can find are commercial and size was probably not an > issue, but MAYBE they were pre ferrite toroids, I am not sure when > they came into usage. Thanks. > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv > > > --047d7bfe954276b38d0524851db7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll say it again
V =3D 4.44.F.N.A.B =C2=A0(= all SI units)

THAT is how you size ferrite cores.=C2=A0 = It tells you more or less everything you need to know to make ferrite trans= formers.=C2=A0 Keep B to less than 0.1 at these frequencies

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But.. why would you want to use valves?
Expensive, unre= liable, high voltages...

'jnt


On 14 Nov= ember 2015 at 19:06, Chris Wilson <chris@chriswilson.tv> = wrote:
14 November 2015


If you built a decent power valve LF amp what is the realistic voltage
limit to ferrite cored tank circuits? In other words, what plate
voltage / current is the limit for say a ferrite cored toroidal coil
before you have to move on to an air cored (very large?) tank coil?
Anyone have any links to the limiting figures? All the highish power
valved LF amps I can find are commercial and size was probably not an
issue, but MAYBE they were pre ferrite toroids, I am not sure when
they came into usage. Thanks.



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