Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA4K5eLa028523 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:05:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zu4Fs-0005Zd-Vz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:02:00 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zu4Fs-0005ZN-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:02:00 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com ([209.85.212.176]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu4Eu-0001Fn-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:01:59 +0000 Received: by wimw2 with SMTP id w2so1147379wim.1 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:00:45 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VLoX2YJlPCIYt3G9MA9Uhkduw6InHxG1fgrFX+ErMVc=; b=qgVhq7gKarhJoQwDppERllo7V5IDFTKu3mt2gc0caYCTfGA62qEIGpGwKhkxfRCuUH GeJfMOsqAjZywHeVeYxu12GAgu7zQa+lsuUK8whtueykRycIe4e7I0v5jv/3L9xNPtpL Vxo5vAyHV04vj9ijtZE4Fspgeernufp5jPoa4RDUldsDcXEZMJZPMBbwis/waXUd49by wFFuOlWwphkHU/YnYz3VupwSxrXHWr4U2HMNf45NGr9lddWd8dbjhx4ia0yZT6WpoK2W 1hKvoxLeXCUJLswxUcmUkMki36M6bb5dyi7GB53StqhJs/j0i+bGR/qZH1pkXWHHhZmz 8kOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.87.230 with SMTP id bb6mr3854447wjb.157.1446667244946; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.183.139 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:00:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1843908200.20151104162925@chriswilson.tv> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:00:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 5934134de2d93cab1d5fc440b67de82f Subject: Re: LF: Capacitive top hat question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfe95423e4e390523bc77a8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4819 --047d7bfe95423e4e390523bc77a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A pretty thoroughly top loaded vertical, Heff = Hactual 'jnt On 4 November 2015 at 19:50, Graham wrote: > (about 16 fee thigh, strapped together at the base only) > > I wonder what exactly is radiating Chris ? > > what to you estimate the beam pattern to be , I have the idea , > south to SV is down , compared to say North TF ? , the levels into > Iceland are significant .. > > 73-Graham > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chris Wilson" > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:29 PM > To: > Subject: LF: Capacitive top hat question > > 04 November 2015 >> >> >> On my 136khz set up I have a short piece of ladder line (about 16 feet >> high, strapped together at the base only) feeding the corner of my >> horizontal quad loop, which is about 460 feet in circumference. If I >> am TX'ing with WSPR I can walk around under all of the loop and a >> fluorescent tube at waist height will light quite brightly. Should the >> loop also radiate as well as the vertical section? Sorry for the >> probably naive question, I am not sure whether it's normal or not, >> thanks. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best regards, >> Chris mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv >> >> >> > --047d7bfe95423e4e390523bc77a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A pretty thoroughly top loaded vertical, Heff =3D Hactual<= div>
'jnt


On 4 November 2015 at 19:50, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
(about 16 fee thigh, strapped together at the base only)

I wonder=C2=A0 what=C2=A0 exactly=C2=A0 is=C2=A0 radiating Chris ?

what=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 you=C2=A0 estimate the=C2=A0 beam=C2=A0 pattern to=C2= =A0 be ,=C2=A0 I have the=C2=A0 idea , south=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 SV is down , co= mpared to=C2=A0 say=C2=A0 North TF ? , the=C2=A0 levels=C2=A0 into Iceland= =C2=A0 are significant ..

73-Graham



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From: "Chris Wilson" <chris@chriswilson.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:29 PM
To: <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Capacitive top hat question

04 November 2015


On my 136khz set up I have a short piece of ladder line (about 16 feet
high, strapped together at the base only) feeding the corner of my
horizontal quad loop, which is about 460 feet in circumference. If I
am TX'ing with WSPR I can walk around under all of the loop and a
fluorescent tube at waist height will light quite brightly. Should the
loop also radiate as well as the vertical section? Sorry for the
probably naive question, I am not sure whether it's normal or not,
thanks.



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Best regards,
Chris=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv




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