Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAPC8uF5022569 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:08:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a1Yoc-0000V9-9K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:04:50 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a1Yoc-0000V0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:04:50 +0000 Received: from rgout0601.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a1YnX-0003oc-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:04:48 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.149.129.85 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090202.5655A393.0020,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=39/50,refid=2.7.2:2015.11.25.104816:17:39.532,ip=86.149.129.85,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __KNOWN_FREEWEB_URI7[http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ [groups.yahoo.com] [groups.yahoo.com]], __ANY_URI, __HTTPS_URI, __CANPHARM_UNSUB_LINK, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __URI_NO_WWW, __INT_PROD_ONLINE, ECARD_KNOWN_DOMAINS, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_TV, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[85.129.149.86.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, KNOWN_FREEWEB_URI, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (86.149.129.85) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 56549CCB00166260; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:03:31 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1448453023; bh=TTIgn6reL4xw1Jzv0eCpm9swBul9NVyLbtE9K6Ju6rs=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=X9LmkzXY3twZkvTRwcJ1jqe+Znphh55Q5IeI0FM2YTCS1g2JqilYC8kzLhU3VSOk06Y1gOl8/lLZTFVUaYgKcSxf8YgNEeoo7ZBt148HTxmLu9mFowMNLez0llABVAJBe5+SzRsA7X5p4ojuCYdUPJcZoQTB1NQ8i4R6o2r4DWU= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: , References: <1214051631.20151125112538@chriswilson.tv> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:03:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: b8b011f938af8abc4b241335cabd0691 Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Is a capacative top hat only as good as its lowest point? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5309 Hi Chris I think any raising of the top-wire (loop) will increase the the vertical component slightly and the ERP is proportional to effective height squared. It also looks less obtrusive if higher :-)) It is cheaper ERP than watts :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wilson chris@chriswilson.tv [rsgb_lf_group]" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:25 AM Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Is a capacative top hat only as good as its lowest point? > 25 November 2015 > > > As I am under a lot of pressure with work I was thinking of a quick > and simple way to improve my aerial. Better ground wires under the > perimeter of my horizontal quad loop "top hat" is number one. But > another thing I could probably implement fairly easily is to raise one > corner of it by running that corner to the top of my 40 foot mast with > a fairly long support cord to keep the loop a fair way from it. > Would raising just one corner, (which would also allow a somewhat > higher vertical section), achieve much, if anything? Thanks. > > > BTW, the power supply bridge rectifier blew in my G3YXM amp the day > before yesterday, and I was testing with the "HV" sourced from a 0 to > 40V bench supply. For fun I tried to see how low a voltage to the > FET's it would run at, and I got down to 4.9V measured actually at the > FET's, running. I achieved this contact last night: > > 2015-11-24 17:50 2E0ILY 0.137536 -25 0 IO82qv 0.1 G4MSN IO93fu 129 34 > > It has triggered me to pull my finger out and build the 136 kHz filter > for my Hans Summer U3 QRP transmitter! > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv > > > > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: Chris Wilson > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/rsgb_lf_group/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/rsgb_lf_group/join > (Yahoo! 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