Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tADH2kT2029833 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:02:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxHh0-0007U3-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:59:18 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxHh0-0007Tu-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:59:18 +0000 Received: from smtp207.alice.it ([82.57.200.103]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxHfy-0001UF-Tw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:59:17 +0000 Received: from PCFausto (79.47.124.142) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 562CAA69035A4662 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <8C2F8C0606B444B9971BAB6B73366E22@PCFausto> From: "Fausto Coletti" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:57:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Scan-Signature: 3f12a6171cff302119f724e64afab799 Subject: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01D11E3C.D359BE00" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5022 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01D11E3C.D359BE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I Just did a nice CW qso and new on I<> ES with Luis EA5DOM.=20 73, Fausto IK4NMF=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: RE: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Great thoughts Stefan ! ;-) I would say special is when: -You make the best out of your situation (QTH, money, time, R loss, R = rad, ERP) to arrange a working radio system and -When you use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) ) -Work on your skills and try to improve the system -When you build your own stuff from the skills that you worked on. Add another one to the list - When you SHARE your skills and help others to run their stations 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: viernes, 13 de noviembre de 2015 16:29 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Hi Mal, Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton:=20 Stefan At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on MF/LF That is fine. I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the = others, it does not look difficult, It is difficult but you would make it, i agree. BTW what is difficult? Some say: "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special (=3Dnot = difficult) to make 10000 km on LF" Others say: "When living in such a quiet location close to the sea, = like you, receiving TA stations is nothing special" Or: "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna and getting TA = reports anyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in exceptional good = condx, this is nothing special! It is just due to the good propagation, = not due to your work and skills" Or: "Seeing a trace in VLF in "DFCW-60000" is nothing special because = it is just due the high integration times and signal stability. Everyone = could do it when having a station and signal generator like you" Or: "With your bought equipment, ready to use, developed and built by = others, it is easy to get good RX results. Nothing special! Not your = work. You just put it on the table, switched it on, choose the right = frequency and waited a bit" So what is special? I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was suitably = equipped. Me too. Maybe in the future, maybe. Most MF signals are reaching long distances but unfortunately there = are not enough DX stations through the world listening or engaging.=20 cfm. But also, maybe in the future. The band population is growing and = FR5ZX is a good multiplicator for activity. I hope he will stay. 73, Stefan Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2015.0.6176 / Database dei virus: 4460/10990 - Data di = rilascio: 13/11/2015 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01D11E3C.D359BE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I Just did a nice CW qso and new on = I<> ES=20 with Luis EA5DOM.
 
73, Fausto IK4NMF
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIGILANT = Luis=20 Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 = 4:49=20 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Re: FR5ZX on = MF=20 WSPR

Great thoughts Stefan ! ;-)
 
I would=20 say special is when:
-You make the best out of your situation (QTH, = money,=20 time, R loss, R rad, ERP) to arrange a working radio system = and
-When you=20 use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) )
-Work on your skills and = try to=20 improve the system
-When you build your own stuff from the skills = that you=20 worked on.
Add another one to the list
 
- When you SHARE your skills and help others to = run their=20 stations
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de=20 DK7FC
Enviado el: viernes, 13 de noviembre de 2015=20 16:29
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: = Re: LF:=20 Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR

Hi Mal,

Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton:=20
Stefan
At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on=20 MF/LF
That is fine.
I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the = others,=20 it does not look difficult,
It is = difficult but=20 you would make it, i agree.

BTW what is = difficult?
Some=20 say: "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special (=3Dnot = difficult)=20 to make 10000 km on LF"
Others say: "When living in such a = quiet=20 location close to the sea, like you, receiving TA stations is nothing=20 special"
Or: "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna = and=20 getting TA reports anyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in = exceptional good=20 condx, this is nothing special! It is just due to the good = propagation, not=20 due to your work and skills"
Or: "Seeing a trace in VLF in=20 "DFCW-60000" is nothing special because it is just due the high = integration=20 times and signal stability. Everyone could do it when having a station = and=20 signal generator like you"
Or: "With your bought equipment, = ready to=20 use, developed and built by others, it is easy to get good RX results. = Nothing=20 special! Not your work. You just put it on the table, switched it on, = choose=20 the right frequency and waited a bit"

So what is=20 special?



I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was  = suitably=20 equipped.
Me too. Maybe in the future, = maybe.
Most MF signals are reaching long distances but  = unfortunately=20 there are not enough DX stations through the world listening or = engaging.=20
cfm. But also, maybe in the future. = The band=20 population is growing and FR5ZX is a good multiplicator for activity. = I hope=20 he will stay.


73, Stefan

Nessun virus nel=20 messaggio.
Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com
Versione: 2015.0.6176 / = Database=20 dei virus: 4460/10990 - Data di rilascio:=20 13/11/2015

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