Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAJMD1Tp008296 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:13:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZzXOv-0006hf-FO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:09:57 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZzXOv-0006hW-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:09:57 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXNs-0001Un-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:09:56 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 87264128344.A6ECE X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87264128344 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 844172009A for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::edaf:341f:90e:f70e]) by ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::a470:76b3:406d:2b1a%27]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:08:35 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: Re: Antenna relays - multifilar Litz coil Thread-Index: AQHRIxWa1Rz6f85eWk21Gt3RNDndg56j5fdI Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:08:34 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444768AE@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A4447680B@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be>,<8D2F12C25C90296-17B8-899AB@webmail-vd014.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8D2F12C25C90296-17B8-899AB@webmail-vd014.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.11.11] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.130 (rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Scan-Signature: 75bd9e83b9a4dd6aff3296cebc5bb885 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Antenna relays - multifilar Litz coil Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444768AEICTSSMBX1lunaku_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5214 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444768AEICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I am not sure a (lossless) capacitor in parallel with the coil will lower= the antenna efficiency. I think it would increase the coil losses, compared to a higher inductance = coil of same Q, without the capacitor. Pcoil =3D I*U/Q At same radiated power, you'll have the same voltage but higher coil curren= t due to the extra capacitor. Hi Marcus, indeed, parallel capacitor will increase the coil current, but on the other= hand you will get resonance with a smaller inductance. I haven't done any = calculation on the case (yet), but probably both effects (larger current vs= smaller coil) will more or less compensate each other. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444768AEICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I am not sure a (lossless) capacitor in parallel with the coil will= lower the  antenna efficiency.