Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tALM186Z013470 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 23:01:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a0G9u-0004AV-TH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:57:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a0G9u-0004AM-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:57:26 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a0G8q-0008OB-EI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:57:25 +0000 Received: from sb.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA113273F0 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sb.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACA328A0515 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5650E874.9010004@abelian.org> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:56:04 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1981852865.20151017122027@chriswilson.tv> <1530BFEB-9BC2-4CA2-A7A3-338629A98202@me.com> <308511169.20151029202607@chriswilson.tv> <56328B1F.2080901@posteo.de> <299444874.20151120223657@chriswilson.tv> <5650BCC4.2010404@posteo.de> <5650E3F9.60208@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <5650E3F9.60208@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: cc2e5baae40f8f7a09b47e6877ef0bfb Subject: Re: LF: Phase shifts on 137.777 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5245 I can't do a long average because of the complicated pattern, but a 40 second sample shows 15dB in 0.025 Hz. That means you can use 1 second symbols 8K19A 13 characters. message length 896 seconds = 14m 56s. To get further into Europe you might need another 3dB, so maybe 2 second symbols. -- Paul Nicholson --