Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tADFXies029525 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:33:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxGIh-0006ug-En for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:30:07 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxGIh-0006uX-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:30:07 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxGHf-00014P-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:30:06 +0000 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D86DF20C01 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:28:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ny3bz5FC4z5vMs for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:28:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <564601AF.4050201@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:28:47 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B283765@servigilant.vigilant.local> <5C23727D-E70F-4DAA-BD82-EC44B0FA0FF6@talktalk.net> <68CEE968D1164B3C8EC451EEB91BB8E9@AGB> <02A24473F83A4D848151C25A2B83355B@malcoHP> <5645E87A.70705@posteo.de> <2492E34BD802456B9EDD7BF890784BED@malcoHP> In-Reply-To: <2492E34BD802456B9EDD7BF890784BED@malcoHP> X-Scan-Signature: 54c274b8b0f8da777e8f702c98fe24ad Subject: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080307030704070603010707" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5018 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080307030704070603010707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal, Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton: > Stefan > At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on MF/LF That is fine. > I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the others, > it does not look difficult, It is difficult but you would make it, i agree. *BTW what is difficult?* _Some say:_ "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special (=not difficult) to make 10000 km on LF" _Others say:_ "When living in such a quiet location close to the sea, like you, receiving TA stations is nothing special" _Or:_ "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna and getting TA reports anyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in exceptional good condx, this is nothing special! It is just due to the good propagation, not due to your work and skills" _Or:_ "Seeing a trace in VLF in "DFCW-60000" is nothing special because it is just due the high integration times and signal stability. Everyone could do it when having a station and signal generator like you" _Or:_ "With your bought equipment, ready to use, developed and built by others, it is easy to get good RX results. Nothing special! Not your work. You just put it on the table, switched it on, choose the right frequency and waited a bit" So what is special? I would say special is when: -You make the best out of your situation (QTH, money, time, R loss, R rad, ERP) to arrange a working radio system and -When you use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) ) -Work on your skills and try to improve the system -When you build your own stuff from the skills that you worked on. > I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was suitably equipped. Me too. Maybe in the future, maybe. > Most MF signals are reaching long distances but unfortunately there > are not enough DX stations through the world listening or engaging. cfm. But also, maybe in the future. The band population is growing and FR5ZX is a good multiplicator for activity. I hope he will stay. 73, Stefan --------------080307030704070603010707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mal,

Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton:
Stefan
At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on MF/LF
That is fine.
I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the others, it does not look difficult,
It is difficult but you would make it, i agree.

BTW what is difficult?
Some say: "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special (=not difficult) to make 10000 km on LF"
Others say: "When living in such a quiet location close to the sea, like you, receiving TA stations is nothing special"
Or: "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna and getting TA reports anyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in exceptional good condx, this is nothing special! It is just due to the good propagation, not due to your work and skills"
Or: "Seeing a trace in VLF in "DFCW-60000" is nothing special because it is just due the high integration times and signal stability. Everyone could do it when having a station and signal generator like you"
Or: "With your bought equipment, ready to use, developed and built by others, it is easy to get good RX results. Nothing special! Not your work. You just put it on the table, switched it on, choose the right frequency and waited a bit"

So what is special?

I would say special is when:
-You make the best out of your situation (QTH, money, time, R loss, R rad, ERP) to arrange a working radio system and
-When you use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) )
-Work on your skills and try to improve the system
-When you build your own stuff from the skills that you worked on.


I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was  suitably equipped.
Me too. Maybe in the future, maybe.
Most MF signals are reaching long distances but  unfortunately there are not enough DX stations through the world listening or engaging.
cfm. But also, maybe in the future. The band population is growing and FR5ZX is a good multiplicator for activity. I hope he will stay.


73, Stefan

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