Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA8Jrdo4010479 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:53:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZvVzM-000853-4L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:50:56 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.34] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZvVzL-00084s-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:50:55 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvVyG-0008BS-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 19:50:54 +0000 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0610820995 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:49:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3nv5d150xRz5vNH for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:49:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <563FA745.9010002@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:49:25 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1843908200.20151104162925@chriswilson.tv>, , <8E31BC8EB75546E59F99E35AFAAA0DEE@AGB> <563DD93A.22662.37C4EA@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <563DD93A.22662.37C4EA@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Scan-Signature: 0b2d339ae1d48966556dfb6ad64e2bce Subject: Re: LF: Capacitive top hat question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4916 Hi Mike, Am 07.11.2015 11:58, schrieb Mike Dennison: > [...] > > Several unbelievers have tried using purely horizontal transmitting > antennas and have had poor results. The beauty of amateur radio is > that you can prove something to yourself, but it won't change the > laws of physics. > Well at least on MF i have tried a pure horizontal full size dipole. It was 4m above ground and i worked DL4YHF and some other stations with 50W TX power in July! This antenna was hung up into trees near a walk way in a forest. So if someone has the place, i find this is a real alternative. I just don't care about theories or calculations. Just do it instead! :-) 73, Stefan