Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA1KUQXS014927 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 21:30:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZszDq-0004pO-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:27:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZszDq-0004pA-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:27:26 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZszCw-00070N-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:27:24 +0000 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B6FC2090C for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 21:26:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3nppmf3WHCz5vN8 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 21:26:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56367562.9090101@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:26:10 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1a8427.6a713177.43669029@aol.com> <5635383B.8080403@posteo.de> <56353DB4.8010007@posteo.de> <56354AA6.1020702@posteo.de> <215F3F7B3BD74CAD81A322B601746534@PCFausto> <563616A2.5010102@posteo.de> <57FD07E7F9444DC0A077F7C4102A574C@PCFausto> In-Reply-To: <57FD07E7F9444DC0A077F7C4102A574C@PCFausto> X-Scan-Signature: ab7de7439a3fce0b74220375dc6f18e8 Subject: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080401040106070909060208" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4775 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080401040106070909060208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Fausto, Am 01.11.2015 15:42, schrieb Fausto Coletti: > Hi Stefan, > beyond the technical aspect that is certainly is the most important > thing, there are people like me > who operated in the microwave bands and especially EME that, sometimes > hunted a new one for months > before being able to make the qso that, certainly does not scare me a > few hours of calling... That is laudable! 4 hours, i think that's even beyond my limits. I often called 2 hours on 2m or on MF. > Technology has made giant steps and, systems like WSPR for the study > of the propagation, > bring us to knowledge phenomena that we would not have discovered > otherwise but, the charm of an > old CW two way QSO is unsurpassed in my opinion. I agree. > Surely it was an exceptional condition that I do not think happen > again many times during a year That is the question! At least we know now (since last night) that it was not one of these extremely rare events. But will the path be available all over the year? Is QRN the main limiting factor for most of the time in the year? If FR5ZX becomes a permanent player on MF WSPR we will know more during the winter season. It is all very interesting. He wrote a longer email to me with many pictures that is didn't read/see yet. Much to read/write/transmit/receive this evening again :-) 73, Stefan --------------080401040106070909060208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Fausto,

Am 01.11.2015 15:42, schrieb Fausto Coletti:
Hi Stefan,
 
beyond the technical aspect that is certainly is the most important thing, there are people like me
who operated in the microwave bands and especially EME that, sometimes hunted a new one for months
before being able to make the qso that, certainly does not scare me a few hours of calling...
That is laudable!
4 hours, i think that's even beyond my limits. I often called 2 hours on 2m or on MF.


Technology has made giant steps and, systems like WSPR  for the study of the propagation,
bring us to knowledge phenomena that we would not have discovered otherwise but, the charm of an
old CW two way QSO is unsurpassed in my opinion.
I agree.

Surely it was an exceptional condition that I do not think happen again many times during a year
That is the question! At least we know now (since last night) that it was not one of these extremely rare events. But will the path be available all over the year? Is QRN the main limiting factor for most of the time in the year?
If FR5ZX becomes a permanent player on MF WSPR we will know more during the winter season. It is all very interesting.
He wrote a longer email to me with many pictures that is didn't read/see yet. Much to read/write/transmit/receive this evening again :-)

73, Stefan
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