Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SUBJ_RE_NUM autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA6KKQD3004351 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:20:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZunRi-0003UQ-5m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:17:14 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZunRh-0003UH-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:17:13 +0000 Received: from smarthost01b.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.1.3]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZunQd-0000TD-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:17:12 +0000 Received: from [82.70.254.222] (helo=OfficeWin7.lan) by smarthost01b.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZunQN-0003ag-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:15:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:15:51 +0000 From: Chris Wilson Organization: Gatesgarth Developments X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1446943710.20151106201551@chriswilson.tv> To: Graham In-Reply-To: <8E31BC8EB75546E59F99E35AFAAA0DEE@AGB> References: <1843908200.20151104162925@chriswilson.tv><26CC5FFFDC874EF790AD0A7F69E7606F@AGB> <8E31BC8EB75546E59F99E35AFAAA0DEE@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-smarthost01b-IP: [82.70.254.222] X-Scan-Signature: 739d4fb39bd02fc5a2de5437a39bb056 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Capacitive top hat question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4853 Hello Graham, Friday, November 6, 2015 > > > Not sure why you talk about wire separation, > > Verticals properly are quire simple, this is not a pure > vertical and not very simple to evaluate , Your making the > assumption, that the system stops radiating at the point of connection to the loop ? . > > The feed is at the corner making a Y and not a T .. hence the question , > > At what point dose the transformation take place , radiator to loading ? > > G, > I am very interested in trying to understand how this thing is radiating, to be honest, given how low the loop is where it is fed by the vertical, and its close proximity to the gable end of the bungalow, I was not expecting it work at all well. What would happen if I un-strapped the bottom of the ladderline and tried to feed the loop as if it were still my HF loop? Could it be loaded like that? -- Best regards, Chris mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv