Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9JBZY29027064 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:35:34 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zo8fv-00066Z-V4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:32:23 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zo8fv-00066Q-LJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:32:23 +0100 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo8f0-0000YV-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:32:22 +0100 Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so939454wic.0 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LcrwkxzONrep3+HGSApAOYkauknrIxEsz50P16M2DN0=; b=CpBMQUuc312y+HlgfxHwlhsonf4r+2eIOBUbvj34ifGkch7x322qVsXjZKfGvYG/fE 0nLUtSmza1mAE1M/MTHbFU7BDhqG/y1/7tRaHBNZHlGORFutJWRPL3uNYWUrwoU+mHcl UiX7SJ/iJQiTPT3OYA142HyMIR/J3OU9/hY3HZImGswgCoyABheZ8KYzKvKnT+APpoZc WSIvNC/HWzczFMsNPDDxB/qzCmDrOEhA0Lu+8JlQo7hN+bOJXcEx2f3kBKD5VQYL4JMP 14u5wJ9nNMW3Kvha/rklcdWKU5CXkBjJp11Bn4klcBpmyI5Ntnc/IVKNXYiXwFEtpAkG c3Mw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.90.166 with SMTP id bx6mr19258988wib.93.1445254269649; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.183.139 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:31:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk X-Scan-Signature: c9d6a1e47761f7ec7375ac340bef30d0 Subject: LF: Decca Protection circuit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdf865a4b9b0522737b24 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4512 --f46d043bdf865a4b9b0522737b24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The overload protection circuit used on the Decca transmitter is a rather clever technique involving an over-winding on the output tank, whose output is rectified and fed back into the power supply. The turns (and mutual coupling) has to be set up at test. It is arranged so that above a threshold RF current though the tank coil (which is proportional via its Q to the resonant voltage across the coil) the rectified voltage from the link winding exceeds the supply volts and feeds energy from the tank back into the supply rails. This loss of energy therefore appears as a series resistance in the tank and serves to limit the current to safe value. By monitoring the DC current fed back the degree of overload can be seen and being DC, is easy to flag alarms and things It is a bit fiddly to set up at test - ideally if the link coil were 100% coupled to the tank coil , the turns ratio would be exactly equal to the loaded Q of the tank circuit, but coupling isn't perfect so the turns ratio is a bit lower than the working Q. Apart from using this system on my 700 Watt 137kHz transmitter, http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf where it works exceedingly well indeed, is anybody else using the technique? And would it benefit from further publication and a write up somewhere? Andy G4JNT --f46d043bdf865a4b9b0522737b24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The overload protection circuit used on the Decca transmit= ter is a rather clever technique involving an over-winding on the output ta= nk, whose output is rectified and fed back into the power supply. =C2=A0 Th= e turns (and mutual coupling) has to be set up at test.

= It is arranged so that above a threshold RF current though the tank coil (w= hich is proportional via its Q to the resonant voltage across the coil) the= rectified voltage from the link winding exceeds the supply volts and feeds= energy from the tank back into the supply rails.=C2=A0 This loss of energy= therefore appears as a series resistance in the tank and serves to limit t= he current to safe value. =C2=A0 By monitoring the DC current fed back the = degree of overload can be seen and being DC, is easy to flag alarms and thi= ngs

It is a bit fiddly to set up at test - ideally= if the link coil were 100% coupled to the tank coil , the turns ratio woul= d be exactly equal to the loaded Q of the tank circuit, but coupling isn= 9;t perfect so the turns ratio is a bit lower than the working Q.

Apart from using this system on my 700 Watt =C2=A0137kHz tr= ansmitter, =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://w= ww.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf =C2=A0where it works exceedingly well indeed, is= anybody else using the technique?=C2=A0 And would it benefit from further = publication and a write up somewhere?

Andy =C2=A0G= 4JNT
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