Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9LAIQ1Y004571 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:18:26 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZoqQV-000883-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:15:23 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZoqQU-00087u-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:15:22 +0100 Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com ([209.85.212.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoqPQ-0000RK-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:15:21 +0100 Received: by wikq8 with SMTP id q8so85926453wik.1 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:13:58 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sL65SYSbSyig7USGPNvqWSjRhTl4P4CnN9LZnYCusNs=; b=unBbNamvorp2o+MYYmM2KWJLNI2UbfdFgYyihuJO1JoCEM7i7h1sEZhm9vEx4T1f3Y 6XuazF7T/FCyxNYxPf/bcZ2GvRY7NBKXwjjQt5ueLx1Iui0f+2HiGy8kK9S1qfMw2RzR Mjsul/euW3Iqp3AIBd1WGHCz/cmR37gSz9Lv/2SUj41sRINlZFziI0+hzxPTtMtqJokk xiyySRRfJ+5O8LhcDClCpjW8tj7gTt/nxIxWH63KTZRyY6hQCMtFOt6Cbn/bml9d+Sce mUMpYimqWiTCCj5UmHutur7JYl0PQefJXzNX5Ix7DEUDezu9FbbY6hUKqs/broGBuxQK OZCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.11.165 with SMTP id ej5mr9826529wjd.117.1445422437943; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.183.139 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <562757A3.2080109@lineone.net> References: <562757A3.2080109@lineone.net> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: fb3e28a759dea7e01d34d3fe7de7ae98 Subject: Re: LF: SSB modulation for WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b87472cf6d28905229aa254 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4558 --047d7b87472cf6d28905229aa254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Need to ask the obvious - is the frequency recorded in Joe's spots the actual one you were transmitting on? Exactly, spot on, to the Hz ? When you say I and Q are "somewhat different", do you mean, the wrong way round, or unequal amplitued, or not in quadrature. All would contribute to a component on the wrong sideband and / or frequency as well as the correct one Seems a bit odd that your one actual decoded spot was quite weak copy at a respectable distance. Judging from my dual mode transmission the other day, there are quite a few monitoring stations closer. Andy On 21 October 2015 at 10:15, LineOne wrote: > So far the only person to decode my WSPR transmissions is Joe, DF2JP. > > I made a drive unit for 136kHz to utilise 4 different methods of > modulation including quadrature switching for SSB. Having just discovered > that a fault caused the I and Q channels to be somewhat different I > wondered what the effect would be and why Joe was the only one to decode it? > > The carrier frequency is never more than 0.8Hz out, time is spot on via > GMT (UTC) and the sound card is perfectly accurate so receive decoding is > good. > > Hugh, M0DSZ. > > (P.S. I have no intention of signing up to Yahoo). > > > > --047d7b87472cf6d28905229aa254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Need to ask the obvious - is the frequency recorded in Joe= 's spots the actual one you were transmitting on?=C2=A0 Exactly, spot o= n, to the Hz ?
When you say I and Q are "somewhat different",= =C2=A0do you mean, the wrong way round, or unequal amplitued, or not in qu= adrature. All would contribute to a component on the wrong sideband and / o= r frequency =C2=A0as well as the correct one

Seems= a bit odd that your one actual decoded spot was quite weak copy at a respe= ctable distance. =C2=A0 Judging from my dual mode transmission the other da= y, there are quite a few monitoring stations closer.


Andy

On 21 October 2015 at 10:15, LineOne <dhchurch@lineone.net= > wrote:
So far the only person= to decode my WSPR transmissions is Joe, DF2JP.

I made a drive unit for 136kHz to utilise 4 different methods of modulation= including quadrature switching for SSB. Having just discovered that a faul= t caused the I and Q channels to be somewhat different I wondered what the = effect would be and why Joe was the only one to decode it?

The carrier frequency is never more than 0.8Hz out, time is spot on via GMT= (UTC) and the sound card is perfectly accurate so receive decoding is good= .

Hugh, M0DSZ.

(P.S. I have no intention of signing up to Yahoo).




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