Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9ON9dgg016165 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:09:39 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zq7tA-0008VD-NL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:06:16 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zq7tA-0008V4-Bv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:06:16 +0100 Received: from blu004-omc1s11.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zq7s5-0006AI-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:06:15 +0100 Received: from BLU403-EAS270 ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S11.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:04:54 -0700 X-TMN: [tFzYR2p/AeL7nI0FDD3WyhfPZ+LUpN/u] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Laurence KL7 L MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:04:51 -0800 References: <8D2DCB586344FC2-FD8-744AA8@webmail-vd011.sysops.aol.com> <15F6C5D23D6C469B9FE6E3C21C6ABBD7@gnat> To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2015 23:04:54.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[65352630:01D10EB0] X-Scan-Signature: eb65b97b00a71049be1fa526941c7b31 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-A7B94D35-8022-461D-857B-A8A59397A324" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: XPQ WSPR15 475/136 and warm ceramic feed thrus X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4636 --Apple-Mail-A7B94D35-8022-461D-857B-A8A59397A324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Alan - absolutely - and I should have read the tables! At the beginning of testing I ran the Tx at full throttle for a few hours a= t 1.4Kw and measured the heating of components with an IR "laser" and saw a f= ew degrees in increase but little more than when I measured in okie - obviou= sly over time something odd happened! Its been running virtually constant fo= r about a week... Fire in the wire!=20 Im now going to come in thru a plated out plastic bulkhead as it ended up la= st time and direct connect to the bus bars... Think telephone exchange with a little more kick! As ever its a learning curve :-) Cheers > On Oct 24, 2015, at 14:50, Alan Melia wrote: >=20 > Hi Laurence my book gives Stainless Steel as 8 times resistivity of Brass= and 40 times that of pure copper so maybe you were pushing your luck a bit= , though I would have thought the connections at the ends would be problem. I= t looks like arcing on the pic but its obviously not..... the eramoc got so h= ot is just melted its way though the plastic and it is cooked plastic on th= e outer surface. Also its not bulk resistance at these freqs you have to con= sider skin effect in the SS. Still interesting its only one insulator. It mi= ght be interesting to look at it with a milliohm meter if you have such a be= ast. I would guess you must have had the equivalent of 0.2 ohm or so to get t= hat hot....particularly in your climate :-)) > =20 > Alan > G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurence KL7 L > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 11:05 PM > Subject: RE: LF: XPQ WSPR15 475/136 and warm ceramic feed thrus >=20 > Thanks Alan - th iono really hadnt cooled off up here from the continuous h= eating over the past month or so but it was getting better so I thought Id b= etter inject a little more heat >=20 > http://kl7l.com/coupler3.jpg >=20 > The Stainless 5/16th bolt in the feedthru must have had some imperfections= in manufacture and got extremely hot at circa 50-60A :-) it didnt happen to= the other bolt and wasnt at the wire connection points each side. >=20 > I think Ive had it with feed thrus' at this current and are going to come= straight in thru a hole drilled in a hi density cutting board.=20 >=20 > I recall the original brass feed thrus getting a little warm but this must= have got real warm - sufficient to say the Decca kept on transmitting and d= idnt see a high SWR at all over the past week... >=20 > The Walmart Rubbermaid box was (is) in its 12th year and Im just going= to plate over it... :-) >=20 > Laurence KL7L WE2XPQ >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 22:42:47 +0100 > Subject: Re: LF: XPQ WSPR15 475/136 >=20 > Hi Markus, yes I think that has been happening, but in Laurence's case the= first post did not appear to any of us so that was probably bounced on thew= ay in, but I have seen cases were posts have been reflected but not received= by the sender. Some ISPs seem to regard a message sent to self as spam.....= I regularly dig out my LF postings from my webmail spam folder. Marking them= as "Not Spam" does not seem to affect the rules in "Spamguard", the filter u= sed. > =20 > I reckon you are due for a few down days Laurence the CME from the C5 on t= he 22nd arrived at 1900z. Spaceweather maked it as arriving unexpectedly ear= ly.....I dont see that the interval was about 62 hours. We only caught the "= wash" as it was not pointing at Earth, and that could account for some of th= e longer interval. > =20 > Alan --Apple-Mail-A7B94D35-8022-461D-857B-A8A59397A324 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iY29udGVudC10eXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9dXRmLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPjxkaXY+VGhhbmtz IEFsYW4gLSBhYnNvbHV0ZWx5IC0gYW5kIEkgc2hvdWxkIGhhdmUgcmVhZCB0aGUgdGFibGVzITwv ZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+Jm5ic3A7QXQgdGhlIGJlZ2lubmluZyBvZiB0ZXN0aW5n IEkgcmFuIHRoZSBUeCBhdCBmdWxsIHRocm90dGxlIGZvciBhIGZldyBob3VycyBhdCAxLjRLdyBh bmQgbWVhc3VyZWQgdGhlIGhlYXRpbmcgb2YgY29tcG9uZW50cyB3aXRoIGFuIElSICJsYXNlciIg YW5kIHNhdyBhIGZldyBkZWdyZWVzIGluIGluY3JlYXNlIGJ1dCBsaXR0bGUgbW9yZSB0aGFuIHdo ZW4gSSBtZWFzdXJlZCBpbiBva2llIC0gb2J2aW91c2x5IG92ZXIgdGltZSBzb21ldGhpbmcgb2Rk IGhhcHBlbmVkISBJdHMgYmVlbiBydW5uaW5nIHZpcnR1YWxseSBjb25zdGFudCBmb3IgYWJvdXQg 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