Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9VAKLAm011561 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:20:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZsTDQ-0003gM-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:16:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZsTDQ-0003gC-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:16:52 +0000 Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTCM-0001gV-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:16:51 +0000 Received: from PCFausto (87.6.54.2) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 563332A50025C488 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Fausto Coletti" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B278155@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B278155@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:15:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Scan-Signature: c6cbc5ce44df878784f4cb3a3fba4d0e Subject: Re: LF: First of its kind? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01D113CD.7336F520" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4722 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01D113CD.7336F520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis,=20 Basically the operational conditions to hear an EME echo there would be, = the only problem=20 is to find the right time in which the transmitted signal is able to = exit in the area without being=20 blocked by the attenuation of the layer D (whereby daylight it would be = impossible) or, by=20 reflection of the ionosphere during the night.=20 Probably with a transmitted signal with a very high angle of incidence = such that is not reflected by the ionosphere would be possible. We could use a horizontal low = dipole NVIS.=20 The overall attenuation of the signal would be around 195 dB.=20 Stefan and I could do the first EME QSO on MF :-))=20 I have no experience in the use of antenna simulators, what could be the = gain of a dipole lying a=20 few meters from the ground, around a radiation angle of 90 degrees ?=20 73, Fausto IK4NMF=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: First of its kind? Congratulations Stefan Have you checked were was the Moon at that time ?. You may be EME = capable on MF ;-) Good to know there is sombody monitoring from Reunion Island 73 de Luis EA5DOM Enviado en portable ------ Mensaje original ------ Desde: DK7FC Fecha: 30/10/2015 20:29 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Asunto:Re: LF: First of its kind? Fine fine, good to know. We should slowly generate a website showing = an overview, like R7NT did for LF! :-) 73, Stefan Am 30.10.2015 20:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe:=20 and if I remember well PA0A has been copied at the US west coast = some years ago, must also be in the 9000km range. 73, Rik ON7YD -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens John Langridge = [jlangridge@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2015 20:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: First of its kind? >Is that the best distance after the detection by F6CNI/BOG of = VK1DSH ? no, my report by VK2DDI in 2014 was 15047.2 km. =20 73 and again congrats! John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: DK7FC To:=20 Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =20 Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 1:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: First of its kind? Hi Roelof, John, Markus, OK, convinced :-) Another very rare event obviously. I'm happy. = Shows that it's always worth to be on the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) = Oh, currently i'm not ;-) Thanks for your enquieres. Is that the best distance after the detection by F6CNI/BOG of VK1DSH = ? 73, Stefan Am 30.10.2015 19:43, schrieb roelof@ndb.demon.nl:=20 Hello Stefan, I found this earlier post: >>> For your information, Michel FR5ZX (Reunion Island), Africa, sent to = Lars a report and an audio record of his SAQ reception on 17,2 kHz. Michel was using a mini-whip and a Winradio rcvr. Congratulations for that nice DX (more than 9400 km) ! Jean-Louis F6AGR <<< The call does exist it seems as does the antenna he used!!! 73, Roelof, PAoRDT Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2015.0.6173 / Database dei virus: 4455/10921 - Data di = rilascio: 31/10/2015 ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01D113CD.7336F520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi = Luis,=20
 
Basically=20 the operational conditions to = hear=20 an EME echo there would=20 be, the only problem=20
is to find = the right time in which the = transmitted signal is able = to exit in the area without being
blocked = by the attenuation of the = layer D (whereby = daylight=20 it would be impossible) = or, by =
reflection of the ionosphere during the = night.=20
Probably = with a transmitted signal with = a very high angle of=20 incidence such that is = not=20 reflected
by the = ionosphere=20 would be possible. We = could use=20 a horizontal low dipole NVIS.
The overall attenuation of the = signal would be around 195 dB.
Stefan=20 and I could=20 do the first EME QSO on MF :-))=20
I=20 have no experience in the use of=20 antenna simulators, what could=20 be the gain = of a dipole lying a=20
few meters from the = ground,=20 around a radiation = angle of 90 degrees ? =
 
73, = Fausto IK4NMF=20
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIGILANT = Luis=20 Fern=C3=A1ndez
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 = 9:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: First of its = kind?

Congratulations = Stefan

 

Have you checked were = was the=20 Moon at that time ?. You may be EME capable on MF ;-)

 

Good to know there is = sombody=20 monitoring from Reunion Island

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

Enviado en=20 portable

------ Mensaje original=20 = ------
Desde: DK7FC
Fecha:&n= bsp;30/10/2015=20 20:29
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ;
Asunto:Re:=20 LF: First of its kind?

Fine fine, good to know. We should = slowly=20 generate a website showing an overview, like R7NT did for LF! = :-)
73,=20 Stefan

Am 30.10.2015 20:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe:=20

and if I remember well PA0A has been copied at the US west coast = some=20 years ago, must also be in the 9000km range.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org]=20 namens John Langridge [jlangridge@sbcglobal.net]Verzonden:=20 vrijdag 30 oktober 2015 20:03
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Onderwerp:=20 Re: LF: First of its kind?

>Is that the best = distance=20 after the detection by F6CNI/BOG of VK1DSH ?

no, my report = by VK2DDI in=20 2014 was 15047.2 km. 

73 and again=20 congrats!

John KB5NJD /=20 WG2XIQ

From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>=
To:
Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g"=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org>=20
Sent: = Friday, October=20 30, 2015 1:53 PM
Subject:=20 Re: LF: First of its kind?

Hi Roelof, John, = Markus,
OK, convinced :-) Another very rare = event=20 obviously. I'm happy. Shows that it's always worth to be on the=20 air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) Oh, currently i'm not ;-)
Thanks for your enquieres.

Is that=20 the best distance after the detection by F6CNI/BOG of VK1DSH ?
73, Stefan

Am=20 30.10.2015 19:43, schrieb  roelof@ndb.demon.nl:


Hello=20 Stefan,
I = found this=20 earlier post:
>>>
For = your=20 information, Michel FR5ZX (Reunion Island), Africa, sent to Lars a = report=20 and an audio record of his SAQ reception on 17,2 kHz.
Michel=20 was using a mini-whip and a Winradio rcvr.
Congratulations for that nice DX (more than 9400 km) = !
Jean-Louis F6AGR
<<<

The call does exist it seems as does the = antenna he=20 used!!!

73,
Roelof,=20 = PAoRDT

Nessun virus nel=20 messaggio.
Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com
Versione: 2015.0.6173 / = Database=20 dei virus: 4455/10921 - Data di rilascio:=20 31/10/2015

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