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----------MB_8D2DCB58644F946_FD8_E7A056_webmail-vd011.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi=20Laurence,=0D=0A=C2=A0=0D=0Athanks=20for=20the=20detailed=20info!=20Looks=20= like=20you're=20set=20up=20pretty=20well=20to=20make=20use=20of=20whatever=20lit= tle=20straw=20of=20propagation=20you=20can=20cling=20to=20;-)=0D=0A=20=0D=0AReas= on=20I=20asked=20was=20that=20I'd=20been=20contemplating=20a=20137=C2=A0/=20475=20= k=20diplexer=20for=20my=20vertical.=20But=20after=20doing=20the=20analysis=20I=20= gave=20up=20on=20it=20as=20the=20compromises=20regarding=20losses,=20bandwidth=20= and=20voltages=20just=20seemed=20unacceptable.=0D=0A=C2=A0=0D=0ASo=20good=20luck= =20and=20have=20a=20nice=20weekend,=0D=0A=C2=A0=0D=0AMarkus=20(DF6NM)=0D=0A=C2=A0= =0D=0APS=20it=20looks=20like=20all=20your=20mails=20are=20getting=20through=C2=A0= blacksheep.=C2=A0=C2=A0But=20you=20may=20not=20be=20getting=20them=20back=20your= 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