Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9OMKUPt016110 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:20:30 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zq785-0008CN-Qc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 23:17:37 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zq785-0008CE-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 23:17:37 +0100 Received: from rgout0502.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zq770-00061c-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 23:17:35 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.149.134.195 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-RazorGate-Suspect: true X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A010201.562C032E.0065,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=52/50,refid=2.7.2:2015.10.5.155416:17:52.498,ip=86.149.134.195,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __KNOWN_FREEWEB_URI7[https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ [groups.yahoo.com] [groups.yahoo.com]], __ANY_URI, __HTTPS_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_TV, SUPERLONG_LINE, __URI_IN_BODY, __HTML_BOLD, __HTML_AHREF_TAG, __MAILTO_WITH_SUBJECT, __HAS_HTML, BODY_SIZE_10000_PLUS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, LEO_OBFU_CLEAR, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[195.134.149.86.fur], HTML_50_70, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, KNOWN_FREEWEB_URI, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (86.149.134.195) by rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 56122D98025628EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 23:16:07 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1445724984; bh=P/R/LbGXz0eDRj3YmMUeSgKEAPhMEaqYM9ZRrXJJ+98=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=Zkb3JqyUeGNX38nVWRYbMe0cfYsh7fv0ULKZ1O9FRJevsy/S2I1Q+dCzFWgybAS9yit8g7E3SeHWv3nYtux1Dawjb3EacENG4zoh9rnhemPLUZ6i7jfd/hSyKuvxAVzj02ZwRJ2keT/F+D65RSC2re1QQa+jxSNgckEiNsgwyO0= Message-ID: <889D87CBE6784BD29749B63599739B1D@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <309607964.20151024211626@chriswilson.tv> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A44440E95@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 22:58:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: cfc06f19c7513397c6ae46e8ec3027c7 Subject: LF: Re: RE: [rsgb_lf_group] QRSS questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0115_01D10EAF.87D03550" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4634 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01D10EAF.87D03550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik the only problem with your "inter-europe" frequency is that it = clobbers anyone listening for transatlantic signals. I would suggest = restricting operation there with a signal the size of Chris's to daytime = and early evening. He should easily make one hop (2500km) paths into = Europe and get into get into the Russian grabbers, leaving the = late-night and early morning for reception of T/A signals. To try the = T/A path use 136.125 (I think...I'm out of practice :-)) ) Chris, Rik did not plug it but he has an excellent tutorial on QRSS and = DFCW on his web site. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:26 PM Subject: LF: RE: [rsgb_lf_group] QRSS questions Hello Chris, Frequency:=20 inter-Europe QRSS (good to start with) is centered around 137.7kHz USB or CW:=20 depend how you generate the signal.=20 CW if you key the TX, USB if you use an audio tone.=20 The result (TX signal) is the same. Both are possible with the QRS = software. For DFCW audio tone + USB might be the most convenient. Dial frequency:=20 depend on the mode.=20 For CW the dial frequency =3D TX frequency.=20 For USB the dial frequency =3D TX frequency - audio tone. Dot period:=20 most common is 3 sec/dot. 10 sec/dot for weaker signals.=20 For transatlantic test 30 to 120 sec/dot is used. Call sign: just clear text. For QSO's it is common practice to use the = suffix only once both calls are confirmed. Eg: you: CQ 2E0ILY K me: 2E0ILY ON7YD K you: ON7YD ILY MMM K me: ILY YD OOO K you: YD ILY TU SK me: 73 SK 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk [rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk] Verzonden: zaterdag 24 oktober 2015 22:16 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] QRSS questions =20 24 October 2015 I want to try using QRSS on 136 kHz and have a few basic questions if I may? I have made a keying interface for my TS-590 exciter, but not sure of the following: What frequency should I use? Just leave the dial frequency at 136 dead? Do I set the exciter to CW or leave in USB mode? How long should I set the dot period for? I assume this corresponds to the QRSS "mode"? Do I just enter my call sign as the text? Do I need to just look at various grabbers on line to see who, if anyone, picks it up? Anything to be careful of, etiquette or technically speaking? Thanks, software is ON7YD's "QRS". --=20 Best regards, Chris mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv __._,_.___ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Posted by: Chris Wilson =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Reply via web post =95 Reply to sender =95 Reply to group =95 = Start a new topic =95 Messages in this topic (1) =20 Visit Your Group a.. 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Hi Rik the only problem with your = "inter-europe"=20 frequency is that it clobbers anyone listening for transatlantic = signals. I=20 would suggest restricting operation there with a signal the size of = Chris's to=20 daytime and early evening. He should easily make one hop (2500km) paths = into=20 Europe and get into get into the Russian grabbers, leaving the = late-night=20 and early morning for reception of T/A signals. To try the T/A = path use=20 136.125 (I think...I'm out of practice :-)) )
 
Chris, Rik did not plug it but he has = an excellent=20 tutorial on QRSS and DFCW on his web site.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rik Strobbe
To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups= .co.uk=20 ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, October 24, = 2015 10:26=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: = [rsgb_lf_group] QRSS=20 questions

Hello Chris,

 

Frequency:

inter-Europe QRSS (good to start with) is centered around = 137.7kHz

 

USB or CW:

depend how you generate the signal.

CW if you key the TX, USB if you use an audio tone.

The result (TX signal) is the same. Both are possible with the = QRS=20 software. For DFCW audio tone + USB might be the most convenient.

 

Dial frequency:

depend on the mode.

For CW the dial frequency =3D TX frequency.

For USB the dial frequency =3D TX frequency - audio tone.

 

Dot period:

most common is 3 sec/dot. 10 sec/dot for weaker signals.

For transatlantic test 30 to 120 sec/dot is used.

 

Call sign: just clear text. For QSO's it is common practice to use = the=20 suffix only once both calls are confirmed.

Eg:

you: CQ 2E0ILY K

me: 2E0ILY ON7YD K

you: ON7YD ILY MMM K

me: ILY YD OOO K

you: YD ILY TU SK

me: 73 SK

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 [rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk]
Verzonden: zaterdag 24 = oktober=20 2015 22:16
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org;=20 rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk
Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] = QRSS=20 questions

 =20

24 October 2015

I want to try using QRSS on 136 kHz and have = a few=20 basic questions if
I may?

I have made a keying interface for = my=20 TS-590 exciter, but not sure of
the following:

What = frequency should=20 I use? Just leave the dial frequency at 136
dead?

Do I set = the=20 exciter to CW or leave in USB mode?

How long should I set the = dot=20 period for? I assume this corresponds to
the QRSS "mode"?

Do = I just=20 enter my call sign as the text?

Do I need to just look at = various=20 grabbers on line to see who, if
anyone, picks it = up?

Anything to be=20 careful of, etiquette or technically speaking?

Thanks, software = is=20 ON7YD's "QRS".

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Best regards,
Chris=20 mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv

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