Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t91EZx6U025908 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:35:59 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zhet1-0005v4-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 15:31:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zhet0-0005uv-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 15:31:06 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhes4-0003WE-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 15:31:05 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F95120964 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3nRcKs2TyWz5vMK for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <560D4360.9030102@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:29:52 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5601EC9F.2010607@gmail.com> <56059B48.80606@freenet.de> <56069AD1.4040303@abelian.org> <56091C59.5010205@tele2.se> <56093BBC.9090104@tele2.se> <560C75E4.9040503@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560C75E4.9040503@gmail.com> X-Scan-Signature: 69d86b33142413363dd56bd312139bf4 Subject: Re: LF: Coherent BPSK on LF using EbNaut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4230 Hi Domenico, Thanks for your report. I see you on my OPDS32 grabber, as you say. 2015-09-28 21:00:47 IZ7SLZ 1159km 137502.120Hz 1mHz -46.7dBOp 93% 17.9dB 2015-09-28 20:00:47 IZ7SLZ 1159km 137502.120Hz 2mHz -41.1dBOp 90% 20.4dB 2015-09-28 19:00:45 IZ7SLZ 1159km 137502.120Hz 5mHz -44.1dBOp 93% 18.8dB 2015-09-28 18:24:51 IZ7SLZ 1159km 137502.121Hz 2mHz -45.0dBOp 75% 15.2dB Is 137502.120 Hz the frequency of your choice? If your TX and my RX is GPS locked (or tracked) then where does the 1 mHz offset come from? Maybe a phase variation due to changing propagation? Which offset is acceptable to avoid SNR losses in EbNaut (at a symbol rate that allows a QSO (in one evening! ;-) )) ? 73, Stefan PS: Unfortunately not QRV on LF at the moment. I need to find a new loading coil body because my glass coil fully broke during maintenance attempts. Now i need something to come out with a stronger signal because each modification on the system has to be an improvement, by definition. So maybe i can come closer to 1W ERP then... Am 01.10.2015 01:53, schrieb IZ7SLZ: > Hello LF and all, > > here's my "2 cents" about coherent-bpsk transmit point of view. I will > briefly describe the setup used by me during the tests and QSO with > DF6NM. > > I have employed an old analog SSB Exciter that has a resolution of 100 > Hz. So, in order to set more exactly the frequency, exciter has been > programmed on dial 136.0 kHz and then modulated with a 1502.120Hz tone > to obtain the TX QRG used during QSO with Markus. > > The tone is generated by Spectrum Lab having sample rate calibrated > with 1_pps signal coming from a GPS (Rockwell Jupiter). > Exciter is referenced to an 10 MHz OCXO (MTI-Milliren 230 series) > having a thermal stability of 2.5E-8. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/wg0h78x31vdqr2i/OCXO.pdf?dl=0 > There is a plan to replace the OCXO with a 10 MHz GPS disciplinated > oscillator. This latter has been already ordered and it is on the way. > > Before entering in the SSB exciter, audio tone is passed through a > simple ring-modulator built with four diodes and two audio transformers. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsf74bz8e1cqnmt/ring%20modulator.jpg?dl=0 > Ring modulator is driven by EbNaut-TX via RTS-DTR signals of the PC > com port. There is an option in EbNaut-TX to use RTS and DTR in > differential mode. > 137 kHz output of the exciter, drives the 100 W PA. > > The use of SSB analog exciter, of course, is not a good solution due > to the possible soundcard glitches. Markus suggests to generate the > carrier directly at RF i.e. using an AD9850 DDS, and apply the DBM > modulation there. > This solution will be also tested by me as soon as the GPS Oscillator > becomes available. > > Clock of EbNaut-TX Pc is corrected every minutes by a simple VB > program that reads the gps nmea, extracts the time from GGA > "sentence" and updates the PC clock at 1_pps rising edge. In fact > 1_pps is also connected at CTS of the RS232 com port dedicated for the > GPS. > > Prior of any EbNaut sessions, i made a check of the frequency by > sending some OP-32 sequences and looking my signal on the very precise > DF6NM and DK7FC OPDS grabbers (Thanks also to Stefan!). Markus has > kindly open a right window in his OPDS Spectrogram centered on > 157502.120 Hz. > Then i just modify, in SL, some mHz in the frequency of the tone > generator, to compensate the error. > > In these days, observing DF6NM and DK7FC OPDS grabbers, i have noted > some stations with a very steady-frequency signal, i.e. G6AVK and > PA0OCD. I noted their signal during the night also on my receiver > setted in OPDS session mode. Unfortunatly their level is not enought > for an OPDS detection by me but i'm sure that is ok for a small EbNaut > message ! > > So i want to invite this OM to try to bpsk-modulate their carrier > using EbNaut-TX. > > I'm at disposal for any sked. > Most probably i will carry-out some EbNaut TX sessions during next > week-end. In case i will inform via this mail reflector some enought > time before. > > It's a great fun to play with these stuffs! > > 73 and GL all, > > Domenico (iz7slz) > >