Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t8FCvLi1031875 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:57:21 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zbpjb-00018C-Sh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:53:19 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zbpjb-000183-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:53:19 +0100 Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbpia-0005Dd-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:53:18 +0100 Received: by oixx17 with SMTP id x17so94338401oix.0 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6dMYOV3hkf/g9eLjYiMJrXezE/2v+KrgGxPUCrCJGd4=; b=UEPEEpSHbGFIqdpbVEX9tNSKrqcd89bieTqw+GBGLyLHAbqnXUTgo4TY5MXyZ0xgLs QgzM7A0oZ2gy/DCXnihMWS949+4J12Fi3SNVKD6jhi6952bFCqGj4qAsX+QMSXjtbhky /IYSROGlKnBA/oDvRWfNIiP1sbm91w6nBejH1TqVGunXoHMcbbVlCwRyubfIEw8qA1q8 sa3YrBro2ipPqvOgjMwhLO8BGL+hHcqQH4rYiSJ74jp1FPRxXVSNlAT46Re4uBOBAbbd 252D8ReRYw9S7O1+8CSJMqS7in88lqfMkR0gCbzTZnvJsL9uXtqyMXZx4CMbD8ApEm2Z W7dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.191.87 with SMTP id p84mr16473839oif.8.1442321521046; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.26.136 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 05:52:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55F7CF35.2020806@web.de> References: <1442168945.16595.YahooMailBasic@web173003.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <55F5E63F.6090409@posteo.de> <1014ADBF-6AB7-48A5-B96C-F668B9F8592B@talktalk.net> <142842C26C0A45DF90D3CE51CCF645A3@gnat> <5A15573A-C2AA-4C94-9D98-9DF0F1852957@talktalk.net> <55F6EBA9.10505@posteo.de> <55F7CF35.2020806@web.de> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Scan-Signature: d63ea50e288c5ecb9bd7a86eeabe94f2 Subject: Re: LF: Facebook LF/MF Amateur Radio Group Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dd35ee9fb22051fc8a5d8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4093 --001a113dd35ee9fb22051fc8a5d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) to mask your IP address. Alternatively, you can use Tor browser, which I tried one time. The problem with Tor is that you can't use any of the many plug-ins that web sites use so you can't see much of the content. I'm always interested in suggestions on web privacy, and be no means an expert, but I fear we are drifting off the LF topic of the reflector. 73 Warren K2ORS On Tuesday, September 15, 2015, Eike DL3IKE wrote: > Just ask the NSA. Aren=C2=B4t they doing that? ;-) > BTW: on every website with a facebook-"f", the "f" is unique, that means > traceable. They are collecting and combining all "f"- and IP-data, even i= f > you are not a facebook member. > Maybe they don=C2=B4t know your name, but they remember your trace. If yo= u > don=C2=B4t want that, you have to use an different computers and IP for e= ach > website or only paper... > No matter, what you do, if you use the web, you=C2=B4ll be traced... > > 73s de Eike DL3IKE > > Am 14.09.2015 um 17:45 schrieb DK7FC: > >> I agree 100%. >> >> And regarding the argument "There is a permanent loss of information (on >> blacksheep)": Then you need to save EVERY data of the radio bands, >> recording each QSO, each single QRN burst, you then permanently need to >> record the spectrum from 0...100 GHz because it's all information and of= ten >> useful! >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 14.09.2015 03:03, schrieb Mal Hamilton: >> >>> Yahoo was not requested by the majority of Active LF operators at the >>> time but by a few trying to impose their will on others that were conte= nt >>> with blacksheep and still are >>> I do not want my LF/MF information stored on yahoo or twitter or >>> Facebook for ever. >>> There is an abundance of information available about LF/MF from various >>> other sources going back BC >>> G3KEV >>> >> >> > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --001a113dd35ee9fb22051fc8a5d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) to mask your IP address.
Al= ternatively, you can use Tor browser, which I tried one time. The problem w= ith Tor is that you can't use any of the many plug-ins that web sites u= se so you can't see much of the content.

I'= ;m always interested in suggestions on web privacy, and be no means an expe= rt, but I fear we are drifting off the LF topic of the reflector.

73 Warren K2ORS


On Tuesday, September 15,= 2015, Eike DL3IKE <dl3ike@web.de&g= t; wrote:
Just ask the NSA. Aren=C2=B4t t= hey doing that? ;-)
BTW: on every website with a facebook-"f", the "f" is u= nique, that means traceable. They are collecting and combining all "f&= quot;- and IP-data, even if you are not a facebook member.
Maybe they don=C2=B4t know your name, but they remember your trace. If you = don=C2=B4t want that, you have to use an different computers and IP for eac= h website or only paper...
No matter, what you do, if you use the web, you=C2=B4ll be traced...

73s de Eike DL3IKE

Am 14.09.2015 um 17:45 schrieb DK7FC:
I agree 100%.

And regarding the argument "There is a permanent loss of information (= on blacksheep)": Then you need to save EVERY data of the radio bands, = recording each QSO, each single QRN burst, you then permanently need to rec= ord the spectrum from 0...100 GHz because it's all information and ofte= n useful!

73, Stefan

Am 14.09.2015 03:03, schrieb Mal Hamilton:
Yahoo was not requested by the majority of Active LF operators at the time = but by a few trying to impose their will on others that were content with b= lacksheep and still are
I do not want my LF/MF information stored on yahoo or twitter or Facebook f= or ever.
There is an abundance of information available about LF/MF from various oth= er sources going back BC
G3KEV





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