Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t7LK3Ejr016296 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:03:14 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZSsUK-0003tM-2D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:00:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZSsUJ-0003tD-Ki for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:00:31 +0100 Received: from smtp205.alice.it ([82.57.200.101]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSsTF-0002vv-FH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:00:30 +0100 Received: from PCFausto (87.10.52.31) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 55BB312F05308002 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4A6A0C74F3624CCC93FC660782555B89@PCFausto> From: "Fausto Coletti" To: References: <0LbuCq-1Z0UCd0iGK-00jKxe@mail.gmx.com> <55D718E5.8040508@posteo.de> <0FB4BC4D-1000-44F8-8855-C4B1B19CDDE8@talktalk.net> In-Reply-To: <0FB4BC4D-1000-44F8-8855-C4B1B19CDDE8@talktalk.net> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:59:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Scan-Signature: 50abd45de4f0c3e2f43f634f1225d940 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Band is open to VK! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01D0DC5C.989D6C20" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3928 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01D0DC5C.989D6C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable :-)) I have a 8 motor drone but can fly only 20 minutes with one Kg = payload.=20 A kite or baloon is better.=20 Seriously speaking, the difficulties are very big, as rightly says = Stefan 160 meters band, has a very different behavior but, do not forget = that in 1901 Guglielmo Marconi received a signal across the Atlantic at = a frequency around 500 kHz and with a receiver that in comparison with = those of today was a tack. Ok were "only" 3500 Km.=20 Today what are we doing more with our ultramodern equipment?=20 Today we have SDR, filters, DSP, noise reducer, Marconi at Signal Hill = had a drop of mercury.=20 Today obtain a considerable power is relatively easy and inexpensive,=20 114 years ago there were only Ruhmkorff coils then, how much power was = actually radiated=20 no one ever taken the trouble to measure it.=20 But as they did then my compatriot to get those great results: trying, = trying and trying again trying to improve something every day.=20 The important thing is to think that nothing is impossible, maybe = improbable but not impossible.=20 Tonight I bored with the history of telegraphy...:-)=20 73, Fausto IK4NMF=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mal Hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Band is open to VK! Use a quad drone to hold ant wire up More stable than a kite De mal/g3kev Sent from my iPhone On 21 Aug 2015, at 14:39, "Fausto Coletti" = wrote: Hi Stefan,=20 It would be interesting try to transmit a robust CW signal on 472 = KHz,=20 eventually with a lambda/4 kite antenna on the saltwater.=20 It is a bit of time I'm thinking... ;-)=20 Some years ago I made several QSOs on 160m with VK and ZL from my = home=20 with the same 25m tophat antenna that I use for 630m.=20 Why not try also on MF ?=20 73, Fausto IK4NNMF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DK7FC=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: LF: Band is open to VK! Hi LF,=20 It's time again to try attemps to leave traces in VK. Edgar is = running his grabber at = https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html Starting 18:30 UTC, i will attempt to leave a trace in DFCW-180 = there. The best result so far was that: = https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/LF/Dk7FC%20ver%20o%20spec.pn= g Will someone join in? 73, Stefan=20 Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2015.0.6125 / Database dei virus: 4392/10477 - Data di = rilascio: 21/08/2015 Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2015.0.6125 / Database dei virus: 4392/10477 - Data di = rilascio: 21/08/2015 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01D0DC5C.989D6C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
:-)) I have a 8 motor drone but can fly = only 20 minutes with one Kg payload.
A kite or baloon is better. =
Seriously=20 speaking, the difficulties = are very big,=20 as rightly says Stefan 160 meters=20 band, has a = very different behavior but, do not forget = that=20 in 1901 Guglielmo = Marconi received a signal = across the Atlantic at a frequency = around 500 kHz and with a receiver that in comparison with=20 those of today was a tack. = Ok were "only" 3500 Km.=20
Today what are we doing more=20 with our ultramodern = equipment?
Today we have SDR, = filters, DSP,=20 noise reducer, Marconi at = Signal=20 Hill had a drop of=20 mercury.
Today obtain=20 a considerable power is=20 relatively easy and inexpensive,=20
114 years ago there were = only Ruhmkorff coils then, how much = power was actually radiated
no one ever taken the = trouble=20 to measure it.=20
But as they = did then my compatriot to get those great results: = trying, trying and trying again=20 trying to improve=20 something every day.=20
The important thing = is to think that nothing is=20 impossible, maybe improbable but = not impossible.=20
Tonight I=20 bored with the history = of telegraphy...:-)=20
&nbs= p;
73, Fausto IK4NMF=20
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mal=20 Hamilton
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 = 8:31=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Band is = open to=20 VK!

Use a quad drone to hold ant wire up
More stable than a kite
De mal/g3kev


Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Aug 2015, at 14:39, "Fausto Coletti" <faustocoletti@alice.it>=20 wrote:

Hi Stefan,
 
It would = be interesting try to transmit=20 a robust CW signal=20 on 472 KHz,=20
eventually with a = lambda/4=20 kite antenna on = the saltwater.=20
It is a bit of=20 time I'm thinking... ;-)=20
Some years ago I made several=20 QSOs on 160m with VK and=20 ZL from my home=20
with the same 25m tophat antenna that I use = for 630m.=20
Why not try also on MF ? =
 
 
73, Fausto IK4NNMF
 
 
----- = Original Message=20 -----
From:=20 DK7FC
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Friday, August 21, = 2015 2:26=20 PM
Subject: LF: Band is open = to=20 VK!

Hi LF,

It's time again to try attemps to = leave=20 traces in VK. Edgar is running his grabber at https= ://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html
Starting=20 18:30 UTC, i will attempt to leave a trace in DFCW-180 there. The = best=20 result so far was that: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/LF/Dk7FC%20ver%20= o%20spec.png
Will=20 someone join in?

73, Stefan=20

Nessun virus nel=20 messaggio.
Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com
Versione: = 2015.0.6125 /=20 Database dei virus: 4392/10477 - Data di rilascio:=20 21/08/2015

Nessun virus nel=20 messaggio.
Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com
Versione: 2015.0.6125 / = Database=20 dei virus: 4392/10477 - Data di rilascio:=20 21/08/2015

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