Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t5RDOkVn001900 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:24:46 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Z8q34-0003Jw-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:21:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Z8q33-0003Jn-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:21:33 +0100 Received: from mx02.posteo.de ([89.146.194.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8q31-00024N-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:21:32 +0100 Received: from dovecot04.posteo.de (unknown [185.67.36.27]) by mx02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B99225AF50C for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot04.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mJbMF5gqxzFpWK for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <558EA358.80701@posteo.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:21:28 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8D27C7D3E7D6748-14A8-F71B3@webmail-vm149.sysops.aol.com> <558D8FEC.2090102@posteo.de> <7D39EA36066C485998744D9E994DAC52@White> <558DC2A1.2040608@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: 5934134de2d93cab1d5fc440b67de82f Subject: Re: LF: Heidelberg remote MF receiver Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080702090203030606050005" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3544 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080702090203030606050005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, Am 27.06.2015 14:12, schrieb Markus Vester: > - WSPR: Last night, 21 of my low-power WSPR transmissions were decoded > simultaneously by DK7FC/p and DK7FC. On average, the /p receiver had > a 5.67 dB SNR advantage. For my direction, the receive loop and the T > antenna seem to have performed similarly. > Today between 11.08 and 11:24 I sent some more SNR sequences with > higher power (0.1 W EMRP), expecting a higher SNR difference in the > lower daytime background noise. However half of the transmissions were > not decoded on either grabber, and those that were picked up by both > showed only a small advantage. This is probably due to the strong QRN > from flashes from a nearby thunderstorm, which for some reason > are heavily affecting WSPR decodes. It might help to use effective > noise blanking in the SpecLab instance which is feeding WSPR. Anyway > if the statics happen to ease off I will attempt another daytime > comparison later today. I have now arranged VAC3 and a second WSPR-2 instance, appearing as DK7FC/PNB (portable, noise blanker). The QRN is extreme now!!! It would be very interesting to compare both WSPR instances now. Now, better explained: -The Raspi sends the vorbis data stream via WLAN to the web. - SpecLab is reading the stream directly, generates the upper spectrogram of the grabber page and feeds the stream in stereo mode to VAC1. - Another SpecLab instance reads the stream from VAC1 (reading from the Raspi stream would mean another client for the Raspi, leading to twice the CPU load, which is impossible) makes the frequency conversion (474.2 kHz "dial") and SSB/USB filter and feeds the output to VAC2 - The first WSPR-2 instance (DK7FC/p) reads the input of VAC2 - All other normal spectrograms (QRSS-30...) are reading from VAC1 - Now that's new: Another SpecLab instance reading from VAC1 again, preparing for WSPR, f-conversion, filter PLUS NB!, feeding to VAC3 - A second WSPR-2 instance reading from VAC3, appearing as DK7FC/PNB Help, now the thunderstorm is coming closer!!!!! The grabber is just white! 73, Stefan --------------080702090203030606050005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus,

Am 27.06.2015 14:12, schrieb Markus Vester:
- WSPR: Last night, 21 of my low-power WSPR transmissions were decoded simultaneously by DK7FC/p and DK7FC. On average, the /p receiver had a 5.67 dB SNR advantage. For my direction, the receive loop and the T antenna seem to have performed similarly.
 
Today between 11.08 and 11:24 I sent some more SNR sequences with higher power (0.1 W EMRP), expecting a higher SNR difference in the lower daytime background noise. However half of the transmissions were not decoded on either grabber, and those that were picked up by both showed only a small advantage. This is probably due to the strong QRN from flashes from a nearby thunderstorm, which for some reason are heavily affecting WSPR decodes. It might help to use effective noise blanking in the SpecLab instance which is feeding WSPR. Anyway if the statics happen to ease off I will attempt another daytime comparison later today.

I have now arranged VAC3 and a second WSPR-2 instance, appearing as DK7FC/PNB (portable, noise blanker). The QRN is extreme now!!! It would be very interesting to compare both WSPR instances now.

Now, better explained:
-The Raspi sends the vorbis data stream via WLAN to the web.
- SpecLab is reading the stream directly, generates the upper spectrogram of the grabber page and feeds the stream in stereo mode to VAC1.
- Another SpecLab instance reads the stream from VAC1 (reading from the Raspi stream would mean another client for the Raspi, leading to twice the CPU load, which is impossible) makes the frequency conversion (474.2 kHz "dial") and SSB/USB filter and feeds the output to VAC2
- The first WSPR-2 instance (DK7FC/p) reads the input of VAC2
- All other normal spectrograms (QRSS-30...) are reading from VAC1
- Now that's new: Another SpecLab instance reading from VAC1 again, preparing for WSPR, f-conversion, filter PLUS NB!, feeding to VAC3
- A second WSPR-2 instance reading from VAC3, appearing as DK7FC/PNB

Help, now the thunderstorm is coming closer!!!!! The grabber is just white!

73, Stefan
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