Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_JUNO_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_SPAM_CAPS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t4TGZucN028566 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 18:35:56 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YyNDU-0005ar-M1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:33:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YyNDU-0005ai-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:33:04 +0100 Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YyNDS-0006TN-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:33:03 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=juno.com Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1432917179; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=FO/3KNyihlTDXJsGoEaIdX71PLtIKOsDH3wfYDCsPzlMqmbJCITcJlvYvXyK3zrbC FigEBH6tnxw61JOij/axhDbwZmO1zl5/lc0FORkdrobK2z9/P8PkPdCaAhu1WpYm5O nynU/TWI2OTzTxI7CBhsnYmVR6tCfq6Z0ipLOEjw= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.22]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLYTFFNAKZDRGJ for (sender ); Fri, 29 May 2015 09:32:44 -0700 (PDT) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:30:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Email Client 8.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-6,7-14,16-18,22-32767 X-Originating-IP: 72.95.41.110 From: Message-Id: X-UNTD-BodySize: 3112 X-ContentStamp: 5:2:298277372 X-MAIL-INFO: 31036f5a37aa07dabe8ef74a735eeb03f79ade97da97dbf3b77b4a8b X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewGIJ4Hhn0NcA2/ZZuVHIpiFX6bo2vg1opg== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.45.22|mailpop02.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Scan-Signature: 6be9408bcc63ba5aab6f1e66e2d5b7ce Subject: Re: LF: Antennas on low bands : the Siegel and Labus books. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_3902.7a80.5ee4 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3346 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_3902.7a80.5ee4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit has anyone tried a DDRR antenna on LF there is info on them in one of the arrl antenna books and I use one on 144 very small but appears to work as well as a 5/8 wave appears as a small horziontal loop but radiates as a vert most odd thing but works well on 2 meters Bob K3DJC On Fri, 29 May 2015 17:19:24 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?B?R3V56SBBbmRy6Q==?= writes: Hi to all. I see that many questions are on the LF reflector about antennas on low bands, modeling and concerning the lobe formation zones (Fresnel, Fraunhofer and Rayleigh). On the way, that explain why IUT is using the E.I.R.P. as standard of power. ----__JNP_000_3902.7a80.5ee4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
has anyone tried a DDRR antenna on LF
there is info on them in one of the arrl antenna books and I use one = on=20
144 very small but appears to work as well as a 5/8 wave
appears as a small horziontal loop but radiates as a vert
most odd thing but works well on 2 meters
 
Bob K3DJC
 
On Fri, 29 May 2015 17:19:24 +0200 =3D?iso-8859-1?B?R3V56SBBbmRy6Q=3D= =3D?=3D <andre.guye1@aliceadsl.fr>=20 writes:

Hi to all.

 

I see that many questions = are on=20 the LF reflector about antennas on low bands, modeling and concerning the= lobe=20 formation zones (Fresnel, Fraunhofer and Rayleigh= ). On=20 the way, that explain why IUT is using the E.I.R.P. as standard of=20 power.

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