Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t41HwvAB015614 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 19:58:57 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YoFAK-0004ZF-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 18:55:56 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YoFAK-0004Z6-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 18:55:56 +0100 Received: from smtp1.execulink.net ([69.63.44.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFAH-0002nM-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 18:55:55 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=execulink.com Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=execulink.com; s=execulink1; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=IJxTeuAqYTYhrRK4uuAZX4VWwFULdFl/msMHEWgIhsA=; b=f1ivNhRkpB/rrjbQQSvrPEL0BLIhbBafjBZko0ZEb9NWBNW17wWLxcdJ4ZpNZ4jiT3tlNwr+wc+xHDq0x2xtMr0zrcRxW6Ci0R+Rw/HbyNdJHzcPIbIFR4/RsLZRru78J9o6JGol8ol4CorLovttKuUBQFKa1k/PsRt7fea3KSyAsOoVma874J0aSkeO2hF4MR61wIYBn1LAU1+xUMC3CMwNo1typEuq4GDL9hxRMvYvZ6krjPlVFZo6/GQUyaa7QOZH7cXK5pV8mDWG2kPOwn0pmV5swBeVtRQUlqbNFtTNVEmTS5KAr1ETzCSLNCcm1syLJ01wpUCwh0ksvb2O2A==; Received: from h32.42.63.69.cable.ottr.cablerocket.net ([69.63.42.32] helo=[192.168.1.103]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFAF-0001Ba-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:55:52 -0400 Message-ID: <5543BE59.4060705@execulink.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 13:56:41 -0400 From: Terry Maurice User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5543B280.4000504@execulink.com> <215E9C5322354FF8BE0F54447F72043B@gnat> In-Reply-To: <215E9C5322354FF8BE0F54447F72043B@gnat> X-PMX-Versions: AntiSpam="2.7.2--2015.5.1.61215" AntiVirus="3.60.0--5.14--9087959" X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, SubjectGauge=, Report='HTML_NO_HTTP 0.1, DATE_TZ_NA 0, SPF_NONE 0, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_6000_6999 0, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS 0, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED 0, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC **, RDNS_SUSP **, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, REFERENCES 0, __MOZILLA_MSGID 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __USER_AGENT 0, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __REFERENCES 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __BAT_BOUNDARY 0, __ANY_URI 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NO_PATH 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE 0, __FORWARDED_MSG 0, __HAS_HTML 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0, __URI_NS 0, _69.63.42.32 **' X-Scan-Signature: f1284eec928b6c66f973fc41cf683e42 Subject: Re: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080307020006090207080401" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3039 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080307020006090207080401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alan Yes, rugged indeed. :)) They are very well built, almost too well, with more bolts than I have seen in a hardware store, when it comes to taking them apart for repairs. Where four bolts would do, W&G put eight. I too, find them useful for test equipment. I have the SG-4 storage display unit and my SPM-19 has the built in tracking generator, so it works as a poor man's spectrum analyzer, especially useful in the low to mid frequency range. I have found it very helpful to look at filters and such. But you are very right when you say not to expect them to operate like a conventional radio and they take some time getting used to, as they were built for a very different reason than radio reception. Nice to have, but not essential kit. Terry VE3XTM On 01/05/2015 13:28, Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Terry I have the 12 and a 3 both with PS and SPM. They do work if > you are aware of likely problems but yes they need some external help > usually. I feel it is important that potential buyers realise that > they are not receivers like they are probably used to. They are > brilliant and useful pieces of test gear and the W&G kit is very > ruggedly made.......you need to be a bit rugged yourself to hump some > of it around :-)) > Alan > G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Terry Maurice > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 6:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF > > Hi Alan > > I would be interested to know which W&G selective level meters you > have. I have the SPM-16 and the SPM-19 and use them with a preamp > and AM broadcast band notch filter. They seem to work reasonably > well and signals compare well to my Flex 5000 with a Palomar > Engineering VLF upconverter. However, I live in Canada and we > have very little in the way of MW stations other than NDBs > operating on the bands. I do from time to time pick up MW > stations from France, Germany and Iceland. > > Terry > > *VE3XTM* EN93un > -- *VE3XTM* EN93un --------------080307020006090207080401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Alan

Yes, rugged indeed.  :))  They are very well built, almost too well, with more bolts than I have seen in a hardware store, when it comes to taking them apart for repairs.  Where four bolts would do, W&G put eight.  I too, find them useful for test equipment.  I have the SG-4 storage display unit and my SPM-19 has the built in tracking generator, so it works as a poor man's spectrum analyzer, especially useful in the low to mid frequency range.  I have found it very helpful to look at filters and such.  But you are very right when you say not to expect them to operate like a conventional radio and they take some time getting used to, as they were built for a very different reason than radio reception.  Nice to have, but not essential kit.

Terry
VE3XTM

On 01/05/2015 13:28, Alan Melia wrote:
Hi Terry I have the 12 and a 3 both with PS and SPM. They do work if you are aware of likely problems but yes they need some external help usually. I feel it is important that potential buyers realise that they are not receivers like they are probably used to. They are brilliant and useful pieces of test gear and the W&G kit is very ruggedly made.......you need to be a bit rugged yourself to hump some of it around :-))
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF

Hi Alan

I would be interested to know which W&G selective level meters you have.  I have the SPM-16 and the SPM-19 and use them with a preamp and AM broadcast band notch filter.  They seem to work reasonably well and signals compare well to my Flex 5000 with a Palomar Engineering VLF upconverter.  However, I live in Canada and we have very little in the way of MW stations other than NDBs operating on the bands.  I do from time to time pick up MW stations from France, Germany and Iceland.

Terry

VE3XTM EN93un


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