Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t4LIu06x000799 for ; Thu, 21 May 2015 20:56:00 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YvVaM-0005Og-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 May 2015 19:52:50 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YvVaL-0005OX-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 May 2015 19:52:49 +0100 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YvVaK-0001Y7-8Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 May 2015 19:52:48 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.4]) by mwinf5d44 with ME id Wisn1q00B05bScF03isnSc; Thu, 21 May 2015 20:52:47 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 20:52:47 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.4 Message-ID: <3F7A4F222EFB4E4981AAD8CD28C6CF1A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <555CCC21.4060901@gmx.com> <555E100C.25784.C7C6D2@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <555E100C.25784.C7C6D2@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:52:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: c0e6e8bcdc231effb9da2003d606d9a2 Subject: Re: LF: MF 630m: False Decode or Real? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3207 Thanks Mike , We can add this one to the list of 'ifs' The times are temptingly close , but genuine false detection occurred some time later ...With the number of near misses' Down Under is becoming the 'MARS' of the beacon world ! Just a note - The '??' denotes either a rejected detection , timing parameters not met ... OR A single detection presented to the server , with no secondary conformation. I think this happened last night with the first detection of VO1NA by PA3ABK , showing a dynamic detection ''??'' , then the next cycle , cross correlated by F6CNI , validated This is where using the Opera software , provides advantages , as the TX beacon is stored in the psk-map and the call sign is added to the dynamic list directly . allowing a manual inspection post result .. 73-G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Dennison" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:04 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: MF 630m: False Decode or Real? > Very likely a false decode. The clue is the two question marks. In my > experience, almost every decode with question marks is false, and > there are very few cases where these particular decodes are useful. I > believe it would be helpful not to display these at all. > > Having said that, the deep search facility in Opera is very useful > and has revealed some very interesting propagation information. But > only using the decodes without the question marks which, again in my > experience, are almost always genuine. > > Mike, G3XDV > =========== > >> Just popped up at my RX: >> >> 17:52 477 VK3ELV de DF1VB/3 Op8 Deep Search ?? 16348 km -37 dB in >> Dortmund with 140w + Top loaded L 18m vert 80m horz >> >> Any comments welcome >> >> 73, Jochen >> >> >> >> -- >> -= DF1VB =- >> -= KH2MM =- >> Jochen Althoff >> +49 171 2020206 >> >> "The wireless telegraph is not difficult to understand. >> The ordinary telegraph is like a very long cat. >> You pull the tail in New York, and it meows in Los Angeles. >> The wireless is the same, only without the cat." >> (Albert Einstein) >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.5941 / Virus Database: 4347/9830 - Release Date: >> 05/21/15 >> > > >