Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1169; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t38AT97R002013 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:29:09 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YfnAt-0002cT-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:25:35 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YfnAt-0002cK-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:25:35 +0100 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YfnAr-0002QG-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:25:34 +0100 Received: from jimstudio17 ([109.145.75.71]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id DNRW1q01C1YHffR01NRWxv; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:25:32 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [109.145.75.71] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=dY0O3Bne c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TDPL4qJl5FWOmgy1WGqkJw==:117 a=TDPL4qJl5FWOmgy1WGqkJw==:17 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=5Gge8R1GJf2mf5LV1EYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=WOh0Os2sf7jRLIQxODgA:9 a=BokCLTOmryYUj46o:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "James Cowburn" To: , "'James Cowburn'" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:25:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AdBxjHqZhZR9SD2UQ9yNxNYkiNVgMAAWWkug X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16807 X-Scan-Signature: 956413284a34c748fa4125c5c7fa4843 Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0339_01D071EE.BBF4C480" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2910 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0339_01D071EE.BBF4C480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All As well as 2 W & G level meters (SPM 3 and 19 & I agree with Alan - marginal as Rxs) I have a W & G PS60 (level generator). Has anyone any views/comments on this item? I'm hoping to use it as a signal source for 137/472 and possibly 9kc also. The latter to be run via ground loop electrode system as per Roger G3XBM. Any thoughts, comments most welcome Cheers Jim G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 08 April 2015 00:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Hi Iban, They do work, but you must realise they are not intended as radio receivers, and in many aspects their performance as radios is compromised by their design as line measuring instruments. Problems include IMD and lack of front end filtering, some lack audio output. Yes you can get round this or you can be lucky that you location and antenna help mitigate the problems. You might be better to consider an SDR these days but make sure it really cover the frequencies of interest. Graham G0NBD has information on direct sampling mods to the DVT-B dongles. In Europe there are a lot more LF signals from very strong stations than in the US so be careful of US opinions that rate these as receivers. I have a couple of W&G units which while useful as test equipment are less than brilliant and barely worth their cost as receivers. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Iban Cardona To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:30 PM Subject: LF: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF Hi, I'm looking to purchase a 3586C. Somebody is using it? Can give-me feedback about to use in 136 and 477 kHz? Thanks for advance 73! Iban eb3frn ------=_NextPart_000_0339_01D071EE.BBF4C480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All

 

As well as 2 W & G level meters = (SPM 3 and 19 & I  agree with Alan – marginal as Rxs) I have a W = & G PS60 (level generator).  Has anyone any views/comments on this item?  = I’m hoping to use it as a signal source for 137/472 and possibly 9kc also.  The latter = to be run via ground loop electrode system as per Roger = G3XBM.

 

Any thoughts, comments most = welcome

 

Cheers

 

Jim = G7NKS

 

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan = Melia
Sent: 08 April 2015 = 00:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: HP 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF

 

Hi Iban, They do work, but you must realise they are = not intended as radio receivers, and in many aspects their performance as = radios is compromised by their design as line measuring instruments. Problems = include IMD and lack of front end filtering, some lack audio output. Yes you can get = round this or you can be lucky that you location and antenna help = mitigate the problems. 

 

You might be better to consider an SDR these days but = make sure it really cover the frequencies of interest. Graham G0NBD has = information on direct sampling mods to the DVT-B dongles. In Europe there are a lot = more LF signals from very strong stations than in the US so be careful of US = opinions that rate these as receivers. I have a couple of W&G units which = while useful as test equipment are less than brilliant and barely worth = their cost as receivers.

 

Alan

G3NYK

=

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:30 PM

Subject: LF: HP = 3586C selective level meter for LF and MF

 

Hi,

 

I'm looking to purchase a 3586C. Somebody is using = it? 

 

Can give-me feedback about to use in 136 and 477 = kHz?

 

Thanks for advance

 

73! Iban

eb3frn

 

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