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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01D06B41.D0E047B0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2828 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D06B41.D0E047B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nooo can't be them Aliens.....they would have abducted you long = ago!.....how could they resist a odd specimen like that :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL7 L=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:22 PM Subject: LF: Dot and Dashes - PLC noise? We get these here too - most of the dots and dashes appear at = repetitive times every day - related to (mostly!) power meter "Turtles" = in peoples meters which inject signals back to the local substation = across the 110/240/7.5Kw transformers - it used to be horrid at 137kHZ = - and I managed to get the electrical utility to revert back a manual = reading meter at home- and then installed a whole house RF filter ( 2 x = 220A) on incoming supply which helped a little more - =20 I still get the interference but its a lot better, that and choking = the incoming Cable tv cable outside in the roadside podium with a large = "J" ferrite with 15T - that helped clear up a load of VLF noise too - = Cant fix the fenceless dog interference yet... :-( =20 Unless its Aliens again.... =20 Laurence KL7L We2XPQ etc =20 =20 > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:00:44 -0400 > From: w1tag@charter.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: LF tonite >=20 > Markus, >=20 > > Wonder what the little dash below Stefan's "F" was... possibly = local QRM > > from some MFSK PLC system? We sometimes seem to find a number of > > unexplained scattered dashes on North American QRSS spectrograms. >=20 > I watched the entire band for a while this afternoon, and homed in = on=20 > the 136.552 kHz frequency range below, after seeing some "dash"=20 > activity. Interesting. >=20 > John, W1TAG ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D06B41.D0E047B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nooo can't be them Aliens.....they = would have=20 abducted you long ago!.....how could they resist a odd specimen like = that=20 :-))
 
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL7 L =
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 = 11:22=20 PM
Subject: LF: Dot and Dashes - = PLC=20 noise?

We get these here too - most of the dots and dashes = appear at=20 repetitive times every day - related to (mostly!) power meter = "Turtles"=20 in peoples meters which inject signals back to the local substation = across the=20 110/240/7.5Kw transformers - it used to be horrid at 137kHZ =  - and I=20 managed to get the electrical utility to revert back a manual reading = meter at=20 home-  and then installed a whole house RF filter ( 2 x = 220A) on=20 incoming supply which helped a little more -
 
  I = still get=20 the interference but its a lot better, that and choking the = incoming=20 Cable tv cable outside in the roadside podium with a large "J" = ferrite=20 with 15T - that helped clear up a load of VLF noise too -  Cant = fix the=20 fenceless dog interference yet... :-(
 
Unless its Aliens=20 again....
 
Laurence KL7L We2XPQ = etc
 

 
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:00:44 -0400
> From:=20 w1tag@charter.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> = Subject:=20 Re: LF: LF tonite
>
> Markus,
>
> > = Wonder what=20 the little dash below Stefan's "F" was... possibly local QRM
> = > from=20 some MFSK PLC system? We sometimes seem to find a number of
> = >=20 unexplained scattered dashes on North American QRSS = spectrograms.
>=20
> I watched the entire band for a while this afternoon, and = homed in on=20
> the 136.552 kHz frequency range below, after seeing some = "dash"=20
> activity. Interesting.
>
> John,=20 W1TAG
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