Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t2DBx3vt000745 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:59:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YWOC1-0000v4-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:55:53 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YWOC0-0000uv-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:55:52 +0000 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>) id 1YWOBz-0007pC-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:55:51 +0000 Received: by wevl61 with SMTP id l61so22754220wev.6 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 04:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=YDqiEIU6HvnRbFwFIDRWqd/BUsQXVLdn+9wAQOAAWHU=; b=Mz7jpru0xd7pt5xWb7FJVFpQ9JmDtGrwRXJvf9X0WOjN6AtaDYFus4AleHhp8eb78S zqcAl2Y2iHlUEM8ATOQB13iSb+d/ONPrxTMFp4RTE0dHHkYc0uifMiomhExjKntElNiz aopTTpsNvWe5QMUbC80RREMmIt08/PFWqEBX8TW6dAUfyJdOYjRRWiSXyBdUdV1sB0M7 csAcaSNlynvnPK0vnAZTYFNBOI4ONQWcO2G7eKEprqILazV1wPFIfU/Cn02YQPMZSMfU XxWmGQ/4fKcOh2yQEP70/WOF7ohQloE8omFBNjTvpeE4OeXaai17ZzwQQ6+auqSaZ0qu SoCQ== X-Received: by 10.180.85.103 with SMTP id g7mr136766515wiz.19.1426247750418; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 04:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de. [129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hn8sm2467790wib.18.2015.03.13.04.55.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Mar 2015 04:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5502D044.5070605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:55:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <53179301.8080002@broadpark.no> <53187B41.3020201@gmx.net> <53188931.8020805@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>,<55021CD4.2040805@gmail.com> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A234EA8DC@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A234EA8DC@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> X-Scan-Signature: ad8e5dd63f7497fd9d71d15044db2e2b Subject: Re: LF: Activity etc. - DG3LV discussion -One year later Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040600070903090305090405" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2640 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040600070903090305090405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik, Interesting statistic. Well, when looking to the WSPR map you can see that you (and me) are quite in the center of activity. If you can work a station in CW you probably prefer that against QRSS (e.g. we both preferred CW in the past). That has an effect on the statistic. Likely it would look different for a EA stn, beeing about 1000 km outside that center of activity. Of course we know that QRSS 'goes farer' than CW. So your conclusion is right :-) 73, Stefan The original discussion was based on the statement by Tobias: >> Am 06.03.2014 14:42, schrieb Tobias DG3LV: >> [...]bed effect (fascination of listening to CW) is not present, that >> critical mass can never be hold! Because, as you say, it's all the >> time the same if you don't know what to tell. So, after a few QSOs, >> newcomers tend to become bored. >> >>> It will take a time to establish a new mode for everyday use. There >>> is a good chance that WSQ will become an effective keyboard to >>> keyboard mode that is used frequently. Just a fortnight ago we first >>> heard about it by you, its definitely too early to dismiss it. >> Then let us wait another year and have a conclusion then :-) Maybe i >> am wrong, which would be good :-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> --------------040600070903090305090405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik,

Interesting statistic.
Well, when looking to the WSPR map you can see that you (and me) are quite in the center of activity. If you can work a station in CW you probably prefer that against QRSS (e.g. we both preferred CW in the past). That has an effect on the statistic. Likely it would look different for a EA stn, beeing about 1000 km outside that center of activity.
Of course we know that QRSS 'goes farer' than CW. So your conclusion is right :-)

73, Stefan

The original discussion was based on the statement by Tobias:
Am 06.03.2014 14:42, schrieb Tobias DG3LV:
[...]bed effect (fascination of listening to CW) is not present, that critical mass can never be hold! Because, as you say, it's all the time the same if you don't know what to tell. So, after a few QSOs, newcomers tend to become bored.

It will take a time to establish a new mode for everyday use. There is a good chance that WSQ will become an effective keyboard to keyboard mode that is used frequently. Just a fortnight ago we first heard about it by you, its definitely too early to dismiss it.
Then let us wait another year and have a conclusion then :-) Maybe i am wrong, which would be good :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

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