Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t07LLCHa016055 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 22:21:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y8xvh-0003W6-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:14:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y8xvg-0003Vx-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:14:12 +0000 Received: from omr-m5.mx.aol.com ([64.12.232.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8xve-0001ps-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:14:11 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.205]) by omr-m5.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AB22D38000092 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (ipb21bee4a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.27.238.74]) by mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id D910A38000088 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:14:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6EA680ED5B5449618D871C12B8495610@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <46D2E1AF22D14849AD1095081F7613AB@AGB>, <54AD52AD.11410.131E2E2@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 22:14:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1420665248; bh=BO10Qb8xoDDifdTkfLL1IZvc5Sf4CIUVzZ/K4cMpR3s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cv2RbxnyFq9FcQciyTveKIQxYblWp+LHKmj2HQAxiSJB80RS/Ri4dN8E28v4wPcwP eKP9VkQV2hsQvYYqu34EcyWfGUUn5ceuP+7qEDoLJePhmyoaRXlRFjxYzvtfeaP7aR emeqjzHZEVUHX7NSF8kq/cpUwW/dqZcnhzngTvQA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addcd54ada19d6d81 X-AOL-IP: 178.27.238.74 X-Scan-Signature: 611f9af8a0f6ba007b1ec6dce409caf4 Subject: Re: LF: New version OPERA >> ''Opera Dynamic'' << Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01D02AC7.3F1B8110" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1859 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D02AC7.3F1B8110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh look - Opera has picked up Deep Search!=20 I'm a bit surprised, and also a bit amused...=20 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Graham=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:25 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: New version OPERA >> ''Opera Dynamic'' <<=20 Some points Mike 200%F is a bodge to get the text beacon via the server , not showing in my latest spot listing ? JA8SCD de SWL-JA8SCD/1 (): Op32 0 mi -41 dB in Tokyo with 0w + 16:29 136 JA8SCD de JA8SCD/1 Op32 Deep Search 0 mi -41 dB in Tokyo = with 0w + 4 Min processing delay showing in these detection's 16:15 136 LA3EQ de G4WGT Op32 Deep Search 468 mi -43 dB in Chorley, IO83qo, with 0.2w + Marconi-T 16:11 136 LA3EQ de G8HUH Op32 605 mi -34 dB F:15% in Somerset with = 0.2w + Marconi-T 17:23 136 LA3EQ de GW0EZY Op32 Deep Search 541 mi -42 dB in Welshpool = IO82ho with 0.2w + Marconi-T 17:23 136 LA3EQ de 2E0ILY Op32 Deep Search 505 mi -42 dB in = Shropshire=20 IO82qv with 0.2w + Marconi-T 17:19 136 LA3EQ de G8HUH Op32 605 mi -33 dB F:1% in Somerset with = 0.2w +=20 Marconi-T >> Nothing can be 100% , Dynamic detections , will show 1 >> minuet after conventional OP8 and 4 minuets after a >> conventional OP32 decode , this is due to data processing time >> and is a fixed off set , Time can be used as a reality check There are now two entirely different systems packaged in the one application , the original Opera data mode , which is capable of presenting the fade pattern and the s/n , the other relies on = call matching and presents s/n only , hence the 'odd' 200%F , the = dynamic search has been trailed on normal 'ham' kit and provides an = extension to the existing system . Before any variations are attempted , off air stats are needed , there was close to 100 instances of V155 in use since its = launch , with only 1 error that would be 1% . Occurrences will be statistically related to user numbers Where it is unfortunate 'real' calls are produced , the time delay presents a simple , at a glance spot-check , the integrity of = the original system has not been compromised, at the moment the list has a 8 day life , this could be reduced , but with the 7 day=20 operating cycle , 8 provides overlap 73-G, ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D02AC7.3F1B8110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
oh look - Opera has picked up Deep = Search!=20
 
I'm a bit surprised, and also a bit = amused...=20
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: LF: New version OPERA >> ''Opera = Dynamic''=20 <<

Some = points=20 Mike

200%F  is  a  bodge to get the  = text =20 beacon via   the  server , not
showing  in = my =20 latest  spot listing ?

 JA8SCD de SWL-JA8SCD/1 (): Op32 = 0 mi=20 -41 dB in Tokyo with 0w +
16:29    136 JA8SCD de = JA8SCD/1 Op32=20 Deep Search 0 mi -41 dB in Tokyo with
0w +

4 Min = processing =20 delay  showing  in these =20 detection's

16:15    136 LA3EQ de G4WGT Op32 Deep = Search=20 468 mi -43 dB in Chorley,
IO83qo, with 0.2w +=20 Marconi-T
16:11    136 LA3EQ de G8HUH Op32 605 mi -34 = dB F:15%=20 in Somerset with 0.2w +
Marconi-T

17:23    136 = LA3EQ de=20 GW0EZY Op32 Deep Search 541 mi -42 dB in Welshpool
IO82ho with 0.2w = +=20 Marconi-T
17:23    136 LA3EQ de 2E0ILY Op32 Deep = Search 505 mi=20 -42 dB in Shropshire
IO82qv with 0.2w + = Marconi-T
17:19   =20 136 LA3EQ de G8HUH Op32 605 mi -33 dB F:1% in Somerset with 0.2w +=20
Marconi-T


>> Nothing  can be  100% = ,  =20 Dynamic   detections ,  will  show   = 1
>>=20 minuet after  conventional OP8   and   4 =20 minuets   after  a
>> conventional  = OP32 =20 decode , this  is due  to  data  processing =20 time
>> and  is a  fixed  off  set  , = Time can=20 be  used  as  a reality  = check


There  are=20 now  two  entirely  different  systems  = packaged =20 in the  one
application ,  the  original Opera =20 data  mode , which is   capable  = of
presenting =20 the  fade pattern  and  the  s/n ,  the =20 other  relies  on  call
matching  and =20 presents  s/n only  , hence  the  'odd' 200%F  = ,=20 the  dynamic
search has been trailed  on  normal  = 'ham'=20 kit and  provides an extension to
the  existing  = system=20 .

Before  any  variations  are  attempted = , =20 off  air  stats  are needed ,
there  was =20 close  to  100  instances  of  V155  in = use =20 since  its  launch
,  with  only  1 = error =20 that  would be   1% . Occurrences  will =20 be
statistically  related to  user  = numbers

Where =20 it  is  unfortunate   'real'  calls  = are =20 produced  , the  time
delay  presents a  simple , = at a=20 glance spot-check , the integrity of the
original  system has = not =20 been  compromised, at the  moment  the list
has = a  8=20 day  life , this  could be  reduced , but  with = the  7=20 day
operating
cycle ,  8  provides=20 overlap

73-G,

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