Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t03DpxEw003197 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:51:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y7P1n-0003Ds-DV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:46:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y7P1m-0003Dj-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:46:02 +0000 Received: from nm32-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.97.104]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7P1k-0000nv-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:46:01 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.co.uk Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s2048; t=1420292759; bh=QEZ+Vaf3/x9LuDH7xJdcLQTNmyuVeRBJnX9+/ue8vgs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=PM2Z8RSmxixgwjEkmtTQ/OXF153dfF0ljpyYR9z5FwbSIFApjJ+iKJ7t2Cl74ufepvA6BopE30SeKwGHKb0DHqE0LCidLpAuQZK9qXURd21y4TLbHkFy0dIsaRa2Iaiva721O+Ua/X/4tCL3LlNaUGgNSJjmRkiXZ9kTQtDpi8KoeikoWuisLmAJJpGvemeuw67Z/jZZ1CQrN3QFHfiEqQ50tHY1GWFeKyTrzfvmkZPQ+omKb2EoxuWT7fHVpIrSgzsvGODe1BDlXpgnQy/gELoTj2k2r0aLq+BsdNnXp6U+O2MR5soKbvH1daWoxcWbpNdcIc0Vx3QyJCi7zIk78Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.co.uk; b=EKoC8iW5NSY5CUOaWDy/lvTwm6RJ1BcstNvKe05LtJcWkgL0dCnDsRXZBc53drc1TgSnIENvqXWIyN2nIJ0tbCg2bCsdOzbsisQKdJdX0brA1Z/ozeRst9cNS17xnG/2SIsio6ByeloYIi+8pnPFCsUm7lVytkdq7Sz8e5qUj0VLy11Gxfr9zxQP3Q69SsV5lrRhVuvEZrRYI1T2x13/OAPvucFl5ZO2oAkNPzT2Vm8e5slqXolQBX7ig187WwhZq2gxAXke+jPc5JE3kaCA8HwOulgXp/3SuxWtWxNCG51scW6DYdvpWU4fCTy6UkqkmYy3DNo7N723SXiwL00Z2g==; Received: from [212.82.98.61] by nm32.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2015 13:45:59 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.87] by tm14.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2015 13:45:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2015 13:45:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 612523.51732.bm@omp1024.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: YYPXIgAVM1kcs855sy0sN5pfgxqUch7CLWr9FYeMiefmBQjMLihoIy_T_.aqhzp 1zfZK0owXaJ06yPk8AuJomAnL1yMLkuYMURSqgm9pZrUufNr65BFuBnBboakoYaVu6Wjfx2yLfqB CJuLE5uQ9YFy9g8Et0ye.RURiHNY1PrUxQUG8r4Rf4tpSjB__VpwLdfvWTegOmq_oVVA0QgzURnh 2bX5C5jiLnokKmZxTSjTZJ8isVjFGwYxsv_IAHlDy.DYTZL11_8wyIBfTCgran09ihZsQxRpt1Gz .CKC5LCs8REB..4IZtmVXvolT_bdd5aT2hQVbw1W8mAc6f60nKf7NTRrycmBO3JpwySQAotwquNS mW7FsZNrrkJvKNfcikaVZQgAgwdiCLhuKRBVAd1fEkzb9Lu9uOH.FRu.a5AeAz964Z_TMVOOaBLq 2wLaRhynN3zQHQrUC8KB5bfx3HWIbEzlW363n7diyRv6pU9OFMvpFtRWt_c5PyPXqUpZic1QpvGx ji1ZbgTt3iXeaYVyxTeakaN2sBavLTau68bWAaSxR1BOw8n7V4ww.pR8mokae2FKonYfIRq5wB04 leM4VIw_8XBbA.9DMuBc- Received: by 217.12.9.9; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:45:59 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:45:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Osborn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Message-ID: <619417704.3944496.1420292758722.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <54A7F051.472.CFA307@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <54A7F051.472.CFA307@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 4007433f91838c822ced221546b88d5a Subject: Re: LF: AW: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3944495_1277996713.1420292758714" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1745 ------=_Part_3944495_1277996713.1420292758714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike, Good to hear from you and thanks for the report. You're quite right and QRM is a real killer especially on the lower frequen= cy bands.This Christmas break I was plagued with QRM even up to 20m from ne= ighbour's festive lighting. I'll be retiring from work soon so will have to get QRV on LF digi modes as= that seems the way to go. 73Chris On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 13:38, Mike Dennison wrote: =20 Chris. You are 599 here of course. As for activity, I think CW is much harder now because the noise floor in Europe from DCF and HGA is much greater than ten years ago. Plus local TVs, wall-warts etc, create much QRM to 'wideband' modes like CW. I used to work DL quite easily using much less power than I run now, but have recently failed to be heard by several DLs calling CQ. However there is still a lot of activity on narrower modes. One of my transmissions on Opera32 last night resulted in 10 reports, 5 of which were greater than 1000km away and a couple more than 2000km away. A few nights ago I received Op32 reports from 18 stations in 9 countries, including Russia. Just think how long it would have taken to work them all on QRSS3 or 10. 73 de Mike G3XDV > Thanks again Joe and Markus for the great screen shots. > > I'm trying 137.635 kHz now to clear that QRM. > I'm just looking at my old LF logbook of ten years ago - January 2005 > (in date order) There was a lot of activity then, both on CW and QRSS: > OH5UFO=C2=A0 PA0BWL=C2=A0 F6CWA=C2=A0 OK2BVG=C2=A0 DF0WD=C2=A0 M0FMT=C2= =A0 YU7AR=C2=A0 G3XDV=C2=A0 > M0BMU F6BWO=C2=A0 HA6PC=C2=A0 DL2HRE=C2=A0 Z38AV=C2=A0 G3YXM=C2=A0 SM6BHZ= =C2=A0 DF6NM=C2=A0 > G3AQC=C2=A0 S57A=C2=A0 HF7VPM=C2=A0 IK5ZPV=C2=A0 G3OLB=C2=A0 DK1IS=C2=A0 = G3WCB=C2=A0 G3LDO=C2=A0 F6CHT > Happy days. 73Chris G3XIZ > > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 12:51, Markus Vester >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 wrote: > > >=C2=A0 Chris,=C2=A0very nice! Here's your last over, with the NB switched = off >=C2=A0 after the first quarter. You're nicely=C2=A0put in the middle of th= e gap >=C2=A0 now. There seems to be a weak QRM line exactly on 630, so finetunin= g >=C2=A0 up or down by a couple=C2=A0of Hz would help even more.=C2=A0=C2=A0= 73, Markus=C2=A0 > From: Chris Osborn Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 1:30 PMTo: > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: AW: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz > Many thanks Marcus for the useful screen shot.My next few > transmissions will be on 137.63 kHz to clear your QRM. 73Chris > > > On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 12:14, Markus Vester > wrote: > > > Hi Chris,=C2=A0also well readable in Nuernberg JN59NJ. Unfortunately DCF3= 9 > bursts are big here,=C2=A0attached screenshot=C2=A0is without noise > blanking.=C2=A0Normally I have the=C2=A0SpecLab blanker engaged=C2=A0with= short > (1.5 ms) ramps, which reduces the=C2=A0splatter but also tends to render > the signal a bit choppy.=C2=A0Note that there is a clear frequency range > around the null in the splatter=C2=A0spectrum at 137.63 kHz.=C2=A0Best > 73,Markus (DF6NM)=C2=A0 From: Chris Osborn Sent: Saturday, January 03, > 2015 12:49 PMTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: AW: > G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz Many thanks for the report Joe.It's lashing down > with rain here and the aerial current is low so I'm pleased to be > getting out. 73Chris > > > On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 11:36, Joe wrote: > > > #yiv5747433653 -- filtered {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 > #2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv5747433653 filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 > #4;}#yiv5747433653 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 > #4 3 2 4;}#yiv5747433653 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 > #4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv5747433653 p.yiv5747433653MsoNormal, > ##yiv5747433653 li.yiv5747433653MsoNormal, #yiv5747433653 > #div.yiv5747433653MsoNormal > #{margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv5747433653 > #a:link, #yiv5747433653 span.yiv5747433653MsoHyperlink > #{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5747433653 a:visited, > ##yiv5747433653 span.yiv5747433653MsoHyperlinkFollowed > #{color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5747433653 > #p.yiv5747433653MsoAcetate, #yiv5747433653 li.yiv5747433653MsoAcetate, > ##yiv5747433653 div.yiv5747433653MsoAcetate > #{margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv5747433653 > #span.yiv5747433653E-MailFormatvorlage17 > #{color:#1F497D;}#yiv5747433653 span.yiv5747433653SprechblasentextZchn > #{}#yiv5747433653 .yiv5747433653MsoChpDefault > #{font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv5747433653 filtered {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt > #2.0cm 70.85pt;}#yiv5747433653 div.yiv5747433653WordSection1 > #{}#yiv5747433653 Hi Chris,=C2=A0and again...=C2=A0=C2=A0Von: > #owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > #[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris > #Osborn > Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Januar 2015 12:13 > An: LF Group > Betreff: LF: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz=C2=A0HNY LF,=C2=A0I'll be QRV on 137.7 us= ing > QRSS / DFCW for the next hour or so.Reports / QSO's welcome.=C2=A0Anyone > (within range) who'd like a QSO / sked please let me know.=C2=A0Set up:= =C2=A0 > 120 watts RF, inverted 'L' 43m @ 9m=C2=A073Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8859 - Release Date: > 01/03/15 > ------=_Part_3944495_1277996713.1420292758714 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike,
=

Good to hear from you and thanks for the= report.
<= br>
You're qui= te right and QRM is a real killer especially on the lower frequency bands.<= /div>
This Christmas= break I was plagued with QRM even up to 20m from neighbour's festive light= ing.

I'll be retiring f= rom work soon so will have to get QRV on LF digi modes as that seems the wa= y to go.

=
73
Chris


On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 13:38, Mike Dennison <mike.den= nison@ntlworld.com> wrote:


Chris.

You are 599 here= of course.

As for activity, I think C= W is much harder now because the noise
floor in Europe fr= om DCF and HGA is much greater than ten years ago.
Plus l= ocal TVs, wall-warts etc, create much QRM to 'wideband' modes
like CW. I used to work DL quite easily using much less power than Irun now, but have recently failed to be heard by several D= Ls calling
CQ.

Howev= er there is still a lot of activity on narrower modes. One of my
transmissions on Opera32 last night resulted in 10 reports, 5 of<= br clear=3D"none">which were greater than 1000km away and a couple more tha= n 2000km
away. A few nights ago I received Op32 reports f= rom 18 stations in 9
countries, including Russia. Just th= ink how long it would have taken
to work them all on QRSS= 3 or 10.

73 de Mike G3XDV

> Thanks again Joe and Markus for the great scr= een shots.
>
> I'm trying 137.635= kHz now to clear that QRM.
> I'm just looking at my o= ld LF logbook of ten years ago - January 2005
> (in da= te order) There was a lot of activity then, both on CW and QRSS:
> OH5UFO  PA0BWL  F6CWA  OK2BVG  DF0WD&nbs= p; M0FMT  YU7AR  G3XDV 
> M0BMU F6BWO&n= bsp; HA6PC  DL2HRE  Z38AV  G3YXM  SM6BHZ  DF6NM&nb= sp;
> G3AQC  S57A  HF7VPM  IK5ZPV = G3OLB  DK1IS  G3WCB  G3LDO  F6CHT
&g= t; Happy days. 73Chris G3XIZ
>
><= br clear=3D"none">>
>
>  =     On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 12:51, Markus Vester
>      <markusvester@aol.co= m> wrote:
>
>
>  Chris, very nice! Here's your last over, with the NB = switched off
>  after the first quarter. You're n= icely put in the middle of the gap
>  now. T= here seems to be a weak QRM line exactly on 630, so finetuning
>  up or down by a couple of Hz would help even more.&nb= sp; 73, Markus 
> From: Chris Osborn Sent: S= aturday, January 03, 2015 1:30 PMTo:
> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: AW: = G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz
> Many thanks Marcus for the useful= screen shot.My next few
> transmissions will be on 13= 7.63 kHz to clear your QRM. 73Chris
>
>
> On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 12:14, Markus Ve= ster
> <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chris, also well readable in Nuernberg JN59NJ. Unfortunately= DCF39
> bursts are big here, attached screenshot=  is without noise
> blanking. Normally I hav= e the SpecLab blanker engaged with short
> (= 1.5 ms) ramps, which reduces the splatter but also tends to render
> the signal a bit choppy. Note that there is a clea= r frequency range
> around the null in the splatter&nb= sp;spectrum at 137.63 kHz. Best
> 73,Markus (DF6N= M)  From: Chris Osborn Sent: Saturday, January 03,
&= gt; 2015 12:49 PMTo: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: AW:
> G3XIZ CQ 137.7 k= Hz Many thanks for the report Joe.It's lashing down
> = with rain here and the aerial current is low so I'm pleased to be
> getting out. 73Chris
>
>
> On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 11:36, Joe <<= a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:df2jp@gmx.de" href=3D"mailto:df2jp@gmx.d= e">df2jp@gmx.de> wrote:
>
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> #{}#yiv5747433653 Hi Chris, and again... =  Von:

> #owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
> #[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag = von Chris
> #Osborn
> Gesendet: S= amstag, 3. Januar 2015 12:13
> An: LF Group
> Betreff: LF: G3XIZ CQ 137.7 kHz HNY LF, I'll be QR= V on 137.7 using
> QRSS / DFCW for the next hour or so= .Reports / QSO's welcome. Anyone
> (within range)= who'd like a QSO / sked please let me know. Set up: 
> 120 watts RF, inverted 'L' 43m @ 9m 73Chris G3XIZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
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> Checked by = AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Datab= ase: 4257/8859 - Release Date:
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