Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t08DCDs7018332 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:12:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y9CmL-0005rv-4w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:05:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y9CmK-0005rm-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:05:32 +0000 Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.79]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CmI-0002kX-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:05:31 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.173]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DF761700000BD for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (host-92-29-89-86.as13285.net [92.29.89.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5785B38000093 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:05:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54AE8095.9010702@aol.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:05:25 +0000 From: g4gvw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1420657840.3767.YahooMailBasic@web173001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1420658489.67226.YahooMailBasic@web173006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <54ADA3B1.6090009@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1420722327; bh=gMYMJl9BxY8tS9HHR25VhzslAlwEffadnQhEtvUgqRU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gGx4k9zhHCtV2GBySndyXSS55LTMSux83QdhYRa7CVBnx6MRT//thiUkHm5bLXKIa RJjjyGmhyLZ9s2Ib3EWS5qYpJu2fq2jCpuULjNLofywpjMTcledb8UHEaJF+CjOUyM huZZ9rEJUOsZjXBTjXvHvq1o1NRKhLFSJ+TSJ1Dk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32ad54ae809756c4 X-AOL-IP: 92.29.89.86 X-Scan-Signature: 39d0aa3a8a50eef73e9de70bcfcadb32 Subject: Re: LF: Re: SAQ listenership results. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1872 Warren, I am not aware that we have a meaningful education system such that a subject like this would form part of the curriculum! I sometimes wonder if we teach anything meaningful anymore - except perhaps "meedja studies"! 73 de Pat G4GVW QTH Nr Felixstowe, Suffolk East coast of UK On 07/01/15 23:21, Warren Ziegler wrote: > Tobias, Markus, > > Please do not take offence, I am of German heritage so I include > myself in my remarks :-) > > 73 Warren > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Tobias DG3LV wrote: >> Hi Warren, Pete ! >> >> As "listener ship" just those people are counted, who wanted to get a >> QSL-card from SAQ, it is not correlated to the number of listeners. >> >> The Radiostation SAQ Grimeton had been featured several times in German >> television. There is a 15 min sequel of the series "Heritage of the World" >> about SAQ, that is broadcasted frequently on several stations. German Radio >> Club DARC has been promoting the reception of SAQ to VLF-enthusiasts among >> hams (and non-hams) every year. It is easy to receive, when you are just >> some 100 miles away from the powerful ancient transmitter. And Christmas is >> all about nostalgia, so SAQ fits perfectly. >> >> 73 de dg3lv Tobias >> >> Am 07.01.2015 um 20:45 schrieb Warren Ziegler: >> >>> Pete, >>> >>> snip >> Contrast this with the UK‘s 25. Germany has barely twice >>> our population. It must be a metric that says something >>> about the UK’s technical education system and those who >>> purport to be promoting Science and Radio in the UK.> >>> >>> I think this is an over-generalization based on extremely limited >>> data, one could just as easily say that the Germans are more nostalgic >>> or enamored with 100+ year old technology. >>> >>> 73 Warren >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:21 PM, M0FMT wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Just got the results from the Christmas SAQ listener report >>>> from Lars. >>>> >>>> It shows an over whelming listener ship in Germany of 171. >>>> Contrast this with the UK‘s 25. Germany has barely twice >>>> our population. It must be a metric that says something >>>> about the UK’s technical education system and those who >>>> purport to be promoting Science and Radio in the UK. >>>> >>>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent via my own personal Too-Way (two way) Earth Station to >>>> and from the Eutelsat Ka-band satellite http://www.tooway.co.uk/ at >>>> approximately 172 >>>> degrees Azimuth in the Clarke belt owing to BTs 19th century >>>> cable technology inability to provide a good enough 21st >>>> century broadband service. I agree for this message to be >>>> passed on to BT Plc at 81 Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ >>>> via the snoops at GCHQ Cheltenham, thanks for your >>>> cooperation it is appreciated. >>>> >>> >>> > >