Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sBJL6hnR032135 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:06:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y24f9-0006uy-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:39 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y24f9-0006up-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:39 +0000 Received: from 132.178.216.87.static.jazztel.es ([87.216.178.132] helo=servigilant.vigilant.local) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y24f7-0003Bd-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:38 +0000 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::d5ab:1dc2:5a75:37ee]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::d5ab:1dc2:5a75:37ee%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:00:57 +0100 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: div. LW BC qrt / was RE: LF: DLF 153 kHz QRT Thread-Index: AQHQG757HuFgh60Pn0uFKBd6WDqmaZyXSkUAgAABWICAABf2+w== Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:55 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB023DB926@servigilant.vigilant.local> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [95.17.137.47] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 87.216.178.132 (132.178.216.87.static.jazztel.es) used invalid HELO/EHLO servigilant.vigilant.local - verification failed X-Scan-Signature: 1908b49407fc556987226b536cc4bad0 Subject: Re: div. LW BC qrt / was RE: LF: DLF 153 kHz QRT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id sBJL6hnR032135 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1529 Same behaviour in most of the European countries We have had a complete blackout for Radio Exterior in Spain since this summer. Goverment shutted down all the shortwave transmission for "economic" reasons to save some €€ A number of organizations and citizens (ham radio operators among them) organized in an internet platform to claim for this shortwave service to keep alive have just been heard by the goverment. So we have now the shortwave service active again BUT just in two bands and with a very limited schedule The unused frequencies were automatically occupied by the big shortwave brother China Radio and this seems to be the future. China Radio and local noise from their power supplies all over the spectrum from DC to 30MHz and beyond :-( 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Roelof Bakker [roelof@ndb.demon.nl] Enviado: viernes, 19 de diciembre de 2014 21:25 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: div. LW BC qrt / was RE: LF: DLF 153 kHz QRT Hello, Talking about RTE on 252 kHz, I just saw this message on the NDB list sent by Alan Gale. He won't object if I re-sent it here: (We will have to wait a bit longer for this one!) The RTÉ longwave service is to be extended until at least 2017. RTÉ Radio 1 LW will operate a full service in 2015, with reduced hours in 2016 before working towards a full shutdown in 2017. The service was due to end early next year after RTÉ postponed a decision to close the transmitter until 19 January. RTÉ had previously announced that it would be ceasing its Longwave 252 service from the Clarkstown longwave transmitter on 27 October and migrating its Radio One service to digital platforms. RTÉ said that in slowing the pace of the longwave shutdown, it has considered contact from listeners and submissions from a range of groups, who highlighted that more time was needed to "understand and enable the migration to digital platforms for all listeners". Head of RTE Radio 1 Tom McGuire said: "We've listened particularly to the concerns raised by and on behalf of the elderly Irish in the UK. "Cost-reduction remains a key priority for RTÉ and we remain convinced that, in the longer term, longwave has had its day. "Nonetheless and despite the mid-term cost impact, RTÉ believes it is necessary to take a collaborative approach and slow this transition." The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said it is prepared to work with RTÉ to commission specific research to better understand the community in the UK who listen to the longwave service. The research will be conducted next year, will be funded by the department and will include perspectives from community groups representing the Irish elderly in the UK. Chair of the Oireachtas Transport and Communications Committee John O'Mahoney said he was delighted at the decision of the RTÉ board to retain the service. Minister for Communications Alex White has also welcomed the announcement. He said: "I recently met representatives of the Irish community living in Britain, who stressed the value they place on RTÉ's longwave service. "I welcome the decision to extend the life of the service by two years, which will give the broadcaster space to engage with its listeners about other ways of accessing RTÉ radio in the UK." 73, Roelof, PA0RDT