Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s94Jpu8F001194 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:51:56 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1XaVIX-0004g1-GW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:47:21 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1XaVIW-0004fs-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:47:20 +0100 Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XaVIT-0007YA-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:47:19 +0100 Received: from mtaout-aaf01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aaf01.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.97]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 426D6700000B2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from White (unknown [95.91.239.181]) by mtaout-aaf01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id EF6CD38000087 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <612ED2C285B746D297FCD5D3AFBBA6AA@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <89C38E3252E74733A48AAAD625D9DA9B@AGB> <542D2C65.6000306@gmail.com> <3D7D7F294CF84C3EB06A24264DA40C19@mePC> <542D44B4.1010203@gmail.com> <699781.97813.qm@web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <3444DEB0E8A844F6967DC5C965B50172@mePC> <444643.70431.qm@web100017.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <58975.45113.qm@web100019.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <6E8F9FB9CC5D4978847A25B1E94141FF@mePC> <881715.56623.qm@web100018.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <4924182644EB40EBB50CF42BEC92320E@White> <816402.30737.qm@web100011.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <40E84CFC06B543228006188F67DFBA14@White> <289583.70004.qm@web100009.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:47:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1412452035; bh=uhEIJWAKLioz52R55ZFgKRQonQKYkOkCbi9GLDEsfBQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bWxgvGBgwRg0XWU7nNenz7QwixuYAaD8lzwlrTvIozh+1UsFlHNnmhGx6hquG00TB iXJpkJD6rc62EVgDevr+zhI5+LJR+AEYGaIEnk0mJH+Ll8zPq7JjGUr1HJ3gAPmwi9 xIQpe3c7Eif7czIK6lLKdFOgHdx4/VhdRIZebyVM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f6154304ec17ea6 X-AOL-IP: 95.91.239.181 X-Scan-Signature: 244beeafbaf2a0c486adf90dedf25943 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CFE01C.C3D9A300" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 634 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CFE01C.C3D9A300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Yas, WPF is visible here, but not very conspicuous due to the purple colour = associated to northeast direction. Well done, Spiros and Kuni! This detection is also verifying a = remarkable prediction from Stefan: DK7FC wrote on October 02: > Hi Spiros, ... > PS: The path is much more promising for you than for me because it is = farer away from the noth pole and all that geomagnetic stuff...=20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Markus, Thanks! Yeah, I see now, it gotta be SV8CS. Wonder why WPF won't show = up on your grabber.... He must be using a beam ant? hi 73 Yas ----- Original Message ----- From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 04:27 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Yas, LF group, no, to mee it looks like it is SV8CS. The "V" looks very clear and = matches the timing for Spiros' transmission. He seems to be appearing = now on hthe new qrg 0.5 Hz up as well. BTW The only Loran line which fits in would be 136170.9287 Hz from a = Chinese chain (GRI 7430).=20 In Kuni's capture we can see a strong signal from (UA4)WPF just below = 136173, and some fragments from DK7FC around 136172.=20 Yas, thank you for that grabber relay, works very fine! 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:12 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Markus, Do you think the one slightly above the 136170.92 Loran line shown on = JA7NI grabber is SQ7XQ, right? For the time being, SV8CS is not showing = up around 136170.5 on Kuni's grabber, yet. Yas ----- Original Message ----- From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 03:53 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Looks like SQ7XQ (dfcw, calling DK7FC) and SV8CS (qrss) are both = transmitting on 136171.0 Hz at the same time. 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Spriros, Seems there is your sigs showing up on JA7NI grabber now=EF=BC=8C = but there is a strong Loran line at 136170.92Hz=EF=BC=8EPlease move up = to 136171.2 or .3 so we can read you clearly.=20 Yas ----- Original Message ----- From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 03:09 Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber Thank YAS. Yes, now works very well. I will chang now from OP-32 to QRSS-90. TNX again. 73, Spiros/SV8CS From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 5:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Spiros and all, I just set up a temporal gateway for JA7NI's grabber at: = https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47335788/ja7ni/ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo.= jpg Hope you guys can read his grabber capture now. Yas ----- Original Message ----- From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 01:26 Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi YAS. here is what I see. 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nginx/1.2.9 73, Spiros/SV8CS=20 From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hi Spiros, I can open up his page with that link. Does anyone else have = any access problem out there in EU? Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo ----- Original Message ----- From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 00:45 Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber Hello YAS JA7NI=E2=80=99s web don=E2=80=99t work http://ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo Please when will be OK let me know 73, Spiros/SV8CS From: Knight Ao=20 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:26 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night Hi all, Further to my earlier email, JA7NI Kuni has started his = grabber on.=20 http://ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo He told me he would try to turn it on every night during this = month.=20 GL! Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo ----- Original Message ----- From: Knight Ao To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" = =20 Date: 2014/10/3, Fri 19:35 Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night Hi Spiros and Stefan, I just contacted JA7NI, and he told me he had been QRT on = 2200m until now, and will probably get back his grabber on by this = weekend if his maintenance goes well. Dst is going up and condx of this = weekend should be good. GL! Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo ----- Original Message ----- From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: K.Togashi Date: 2014/10/2, Thu 21:27 Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night Hi Spiros,=20 I see your goals become farer :-) Well, JA7NI mostly runs the grabber by request. Yas/JA8SCD = is here on the reflector and corresponds to JA7NI. But you can contact = him personally of course. I put him into CC here. However i would not = assume that he runs OPDS32. But QRSS or DFCW-180 is the best mode = (anyway!) for you both. 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: The path is much more promising for you than for me = because it is farer away from the noth pole and all that geomagnetic = stuff. Often seen stong SNR from HGA22 while DCF39 was down in the = noise... Am 02.10.2014 14:03, schrieb SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios:=20 Hello Stefan. Thank you. Seems the propagation going better!! I have a question: Do you know if the JA7NI grabber is ON? His web page don=E2=80=99t work. 73, Spiros/SV8CS From: DK7FC=20 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:43 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Vasily Savchenko=20 Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night Hello Spiros, Vasily, Very nice! My compliments. 73, Stefan Am 02.10.2014 06:53, schrieb SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios:=20 Hi to alll. Very nice propagation this evening. UA0SNV 2014-10-01 20:06:21 SV8CS 6081km 137520.148Hz 14mHz = -47.3dBOp 66% 18.1dB 2014-10-01 18:39:53 SV8CS 6081km 137520.145Hz 9mHz = -44.3dBOp 94% 19.6dB also: DF6NM 2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1506km 137519.976Hz 12mHz = -29.8dBOp 100% 21.9dB DK7FC 2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1617km 137519.974Hz 11mHz = -27.4dBOp 87% 22.0dB EW6BN 2014-10-01 20:06:20 SV8CS 2058km 137519.985Hz 12mHz = -37.8dBOp 100% 20.2dB TNX, 73 Spiros/SV8CS ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CFE01C.C3D9A300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Yas,
 
WPF is visible here, but not very = conspicuous due=20 to the purple colour associated to northeast direction.
 
 
Well done, Spiros and Kuni! This = detection=20 is also verifying a remarkable prediction from Stefan:
 
DK7FC wrote on October 02:
> Hi Spiros, ...
> PS: The path is much more promising for = you=20 than for me because it is farer away from the noth pole and all that = geomagnetic=20 stuff...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:35 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Markus,

Thanks!  Yeah, I see now, it gotta be SV8CS.  = Wonder why=20 WPF won't show up on your grabber.... He must be using a beam ant?=20 hi

73

Yas

----- Original Message = -----
From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
<= SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Date: 2014/10/5, = Sun=20 04:27
Subject: Re: = LF: JA7NI=20 - grabber

Hi Yas, LF group,
 
no, to mee it looks like it is SV8CS. = The "V"=20 looks very clear and matches the timing for Spiros' = transmission. He=20 seems to be appearing now on hthe new qrg 0.5 Hz up as = well.
 
BTW The only Loran line which fits = in would=20 be 136170.9287 Hz from a Chinese chain (GRI 7430). 
 
In Kuni's capture we can see a strong = signal from=20 (UA4)WPF just below 136173, and some fragments from DK7FC around=20 136172. 
 
Yas, thank = you for=20 that grabber relay, works very fine!
 
73, Markus=20 (DF6NM)
 

From: Knight Ao=20
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Markus,

Do you think the one slightly above the 136170.92 Loran = line shown=20 on JA7NI grabber is SQ7XQ, right?  For the time being, SV8CS is = not=20 showing up around 136170.5 on Kuni's grabber, yet.

Yas

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: = Markus Vester=20 <markusvester@aol.com>
<= B>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org=20
Date: 2014/10/5, = Sun=20 03:53
Subject: = Re: LF:=20 JA7NI - grabber

Looks like SQ7XQ (dfcw, = calling DK7FC) and=20 SV8CS (qrss) are both transmitting on 136171.0 Hz at the same=20 time.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Spriros,

Seems there is your sigs showing up on JA7NI grabber = now=EF=BC=8C but=20 there is a strong Loran line at 136170.92Hz=EF=BC=8EPlease move up = to 136171.2 or .3=20 so we can read you clearly.

Yas

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: = SV8CS-Spiros=20 Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org=20
Date: = 2014/10/5, Sun=20 03:09
Subject: = LF: JA7NI=20 - grabber

Thank YAS.
Yes, now works very well.
I will chang now from OP-32 to QRSS-90.
TNX again.
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi Spiros and all,

I just set up a temporal gateway for JA7NI's grabber=20 at:
=
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47335788/ja7ni/ja7ni.pv.la= nd.to/argo.jpg

Hope you guys can read his grabber capture = now.

Yas

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From:=20 SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Date: = 2014/10/5, Sun=20 01:26
Subject: LF:=20 JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi YAS.
here is what I see.

503 Service Temporarily=20 Unavailable

nginx/1.2.9
 
 
73, Spiros/SV8CS =
 
 
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi Spiros,

I can open up his page with that link.  Does = anyone else=20 have any access problem out there in EU?

Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: = SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Date: = 2014/10/5, Sun=20 00:45
Subject: LF:=20 JA7NI - grabber
 
Hello YAS
JA7NI=E2=80=99s web don=E2=80=99t work
 
Please when will be OK let me=20 know
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
 
 
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last = night
 
Hi all,

Further to my earlier email, JA7NI Kuni has started = his=20 grabber on.
http://ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo
He told me he would try to turn it on every night during = this=20 month.
 
GL!
 
Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: Knight=20 Ao <ja10xx@yahoo.co.jp>
To:=20 "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" = <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=20
Date: = 2014/10/3,=20 Fri 19:35
Subject:=20 Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hi Spiros and Stefan,

I just contacted JA7NI, and he told me he had = been QRT on=20 2200m until now, and will probably get back his grabber on = by this=20 weekend if his maintenance goes well. Dst is going up and = condx of=20 this weekend should be good.

GL!

Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: DK7FC=20 <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: K.Togashi=20 <ja7ni@plum.plala.or.jp>
Date: 2014/10/2, = Thu=20 21:27
Subject:=20 Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hi Spiros,

I see your = goals become=20 farer :-)
Well, JA7NI mostly runs the grabber by = request.=20 Yas/JA8SCD is here on the reflector and corresponds to = JA7NI. But=20 you can contact him personally of course. I put him into = CC here.=20 However i would not assume that he runs OPDS32. But QRSS = or=20 DFCW-180 is the best mode (anyway!) for you = both.

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

PS: The path is much more promising = for you=20 than for me because it is farer away from the noth pole = and all=20 that geomagnetic stuff. Often seen stong SNR from HGA22 = while=20 DCF39 was down in the noise...


Am 02.10.2014 = 14:03,=20 schrieb SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios:=20
Hello Stefan.
Thank you.
Seems the propagation going better!!
I have a question:
Do you know if the JA7NI grabber is ON?
His web page don=E2=80=99t work.
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
 
 
 
From: DK7FC =
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:43 = AM
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last=20 night
 
Hello=20 Spiros, Vasily,

Very nice! My = compliments.

73,=20 Stefan

Am 02.10.2014 06:53, schrieb SV8CS-Spiros=20 Chimarios:=20
Hi to alll.
Very nice propagation this evening.
UA0SNV
2014-10-01 20:06:21 SV8CS   6081km=20 137520.148Hz  14mHz -47.3dBOp  66% = 18.1dB
2014-10-01 18:39:53 SV8CS   6081km=20 137520.145Hz   9mHz -44.3dBOp  94% = 19.6dB
also:
DF6NM
2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1506km = 137519.976Hz=20 12mHz -29.8dBOp 100% 21.9dB
DK7FC
2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1617km = 137519.974Hz=20 11mHz -27.4dBOp 87% 22.0dB
EW6BN
2014-10-01 20:06:20 SV8CS 2058km = 137519.985Hz=20 12mHz -37.8dBOp 100% 20.2dB
TNX, 73
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Spiros/SV8CS
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