Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s8SEa6B0002822 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:36:08 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1XYFSl-0006LL-W3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:28:35 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1XYFSl-0006LC-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:28:35 +0100 Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>) id 1XYFSj-0002Dd-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:28:34 +0100 Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id hz20so169638lab.39 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=0013aeqTn72k7eSkw/dKKGQ/mcDBjLju/8T2WdJzJqg=; b=CmctVesAlikEVVWyJWImTB2qfqOo1kSq7FA8MtPPJVGn5IQRdmxfmm4/9tSVrCpsWw EUTK7kl2Fvn2QKZZhRqJQo1sVAhkp5h5n1+klQpRwznWkbC+goghqRlfuyGcMM0Tv/BE y0O3A2JTlIN79jcaifeXg68boWM7GxVZVS6jm3tu+vxWH3fY815SJECPyEJYHEZPyJSt FpAXBWD3YoqVZSYL2AJnAXlAeDvV4xqlIDrzkcNhXZM3PcMNYYrnaihRZHNXV1fxIb7u 6vugDLoQqH2G411kzB9wk/RMhXPafzG7F+Pj9nMaEe5cxTMAOpmre/5HmrZNXza7T/Fk 1E0A== X-Received: by 10.152.19.225 with SMTP id i1mr33079038lae.21.1411914512344; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de. [129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z2sm3842106laa.15.2014.09.28.07.28.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Sep 2014 07:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54281B0D.4040202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:28:29 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Scan-Signature: c6a8ca7629fac3d35507e5a7fd3cbf17 Subject: LF: ZEVS RX ant question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090907020903010508050905" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 520 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090907020903010508050905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI VLF, Yesterday i tried again to receive ZEVS. I didn't know if it was on air but gave it a try. Recorded about 2 hours of the VLF spectrum received on my T antenna (i.e. E-field). I also used a source follower (J310) but added a 3 stage RC filter in front of the gate. I thought i can afford some pF against ground now with the relatively large antenna which must have about 150 pF. I used this circuit: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/ZEVS%20test%20ant.jpg But somehow the spectrum looks not as expected. While the MSKs are still strong, there is much noise below 2 kHz and the sferics appear to be quite weak. See: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/Garden%20T%20antenna%20VLF%201.png I remember from tests with a small active antenna for VLF, where i used 100 MOhm resistors on the gate, that *charged humidity *caused much noise. Could this be the same effect here? Should i try to use a lower input impedance of the preamp? Maybe you remember, there were certain transistors, several decades ago, they were called bipolar transistors, NPN and PNP. Maybe i should try one of them? :-) Advice is apprechiated. Where are the experts? 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------090907020903010508050905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HI VLF,

Yesterday i tried again to receive ZEVS. I didn't know if it was on air but gave it a try. Recorded about 2 hours of the VLF spectrum received on my T antenna (i.e. E-field). I also used a source follower (J310) but added a 3 stage RC filter in front of the gate. I thought i can afford some pF against ground now with the relatively large antenna which must have about 150 pF. I used this circuit: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/ZEVS%20test%20ant.jpg

But somehow the spectrum looks not as expected. While the MSKs are still strong, there is much noise below 2 kHz and the sferics appear to be quite weak. See: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/Garden%20T%20antenna%20VLF%201.png

I remember from tests with a small active antenna for VLF, where i used 100 MOhm resistors on the gate, that charged humidity caused much noise.
Could this be the same effect here?
Should i try to use a lower input impedance of the preamp?
Maybe you remember, there were certain transistors, several decades ago, they were called bipolar transistors, NPN and PNP. Maybe i should try one of them? :-)

 Advice is apprechiated. Where are the experts?

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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