Delivered-To: daveyxm@virginmedia.com Received: by 10.50.142.105 with SMTP id rv9csp232812igb; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.230.43 with SMTP id sv11mr23446387lbc.41.1404033434393; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com. [195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ro5si28329909lbb.24.2014.06.29.02.17.13 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; dkim=pass header.i=@googlemail.com Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1X1B8a-0006Zg-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:11:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1X1B8Z-0006ZX-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:11:03 +0100 Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com ([209.85.212.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>) id 1X1B8X-0005Cj-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:11:02 +0100 Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id bs8so4553211wib.9 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:11:00 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3JTCATIpN4Dl2vNKCsx0pJKLenraQ48Kd9KLJsalQp8=; b=yib1lQP3Gy40x1BHcggtDuPQ5x6BkCvp4UfjzS8qCx8mdHNJGyWH5Nt7JhLJxIFZUO fYLrYEm7H/MGzKQGKmrzE2PRBQO2EB5FLxTyd51Ri726JDwXZgHShLLm4ZBcBd1Nu7AD 2lDt9DWeucbl/Lsi002p5dAFNIt92DBNWZlcqI1mc53VvlgJ6U3LEKDQUPH5SaCt6yhZ dKahWWKbreF8paqBOhH+aBluvpkv9BeDmv+ISIJ+NARJbhWPXMb2PsQ4eo7nu+XFkwGo naT+m4yhuRVwhe/RVbsIQT4IhyOaBxbSyv+h+oBh3gLrTXlBXlZpS5/EzzFWZ3BYZpro NpAg== X-Received: by 10.194.62.5 with SMTP id u5mr35971904wjr.46.1404033060760; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de. [129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gi15sm33315168wjc.20.2014.06.29.02.10.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Jun 2014 02:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <53AFD823.9090809@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 11:10:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1403635034.86224.YahooMailBasic@web173006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <3C5FBFC479F54BC790FCC6903E495096@gnat> <86E71FC3172F4E64A009D043A3ED486B@your91hoehfy9g> In-Reply-To: <86E71FC3172F4E64A009D043A3ED486B@your91hoehfy9g> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: True true. But i fear it will happen again some day, due to several pseudo super features. NEW does not automatically mean BETTER, older OMs should know that. But obviously the advertisements are doing a great job. BTW, i remember the argumentation that the new features of yahoo will help to rise newcomers on the LF bands. But where are they now? Maybe in the web instead on the bands, but not even that! [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.212.182 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (73dk7fc[at]googlemail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 61577e2058c0d3bf1737d7de6ed6eb16 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false True true. But i fear it will happen again some day, due to several pseudo super features. NEW does not automatically mean BETTER, older OMs should know that. But obviously the advertisements are doing a great job. BTW, i remember the argumentation that the new features of yahoo will help to rise newcomers on the LF bands. But where are they now? Maybe in the web instead on the bands, but not even that! 73! Am 29.06.2014 10:00, schrieb mal hamilton: > LF/MF > My advice from the beginning was not to get involved with Yahoo and > stick to Blacksheep which I have always found to be totally reliable. > Others like DK7FC agreed. Those shouting loudest for Yahoo at the time > have all EXPIRED or FADED AWAY !!!! > I now rest my case > de Mal/G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:56 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? > > >> Hi Pete we have been declaring for a long time now that we have no >> control over Blacksheep! So we could not "black-ball" you even if we >> should really want to :-)) >> >> There has been a long running problem with certain ISP Yahoo being >> one. In past years the majority of forged address spam came from >> Yahoo, gmail and others. The have now instituted some form of >> authorisation which causes a lot of their legitimate mail to be >> bounced by other sites. >> >> You may remember before the Yahoo group was set up, and we still had >> access to the administator, that he implimented a facility which was >> available to check that mail was genuinely from the quoted address, >> the immediate result was mail from Yahoo, aol, gmail and a few other >> started bouncing because they wouldnt use the facility >> themselves....the blacksheep admin had to take it off again to allow >> normal operation. It now seems they are having so many complaints >> they have started using it or something similar and unmarked mails >> from blacksheep are being bounced by your Yahoo >> account!!...........or its something like that. >> >> Alan >> G3NYK >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M0FMT" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:37 PM >> Subject: LF: Fw: Black balled .... me? >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 24/6/14, M0FMT wrote: >> >>> From: M0FMT >>> Subject: Black balled .... me? >>> To: rsbg_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Date: Tuesday, 24 June, 2014, 19:31 >>> Hi all >>> All my mails are coming back from Blacksheep and have done >>> for ages now. Have I been black balled on this reflector? I >>> don't mind but it would be nice to know and I won't bother >>> in future......}o( >>> Who knows???? >>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >> >> > >