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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Mike, LF, I can't say that I have seen that signal but I will certainly look for it. I have a similar signal on 136.160kHz at the moment which on this occasion started at 1701utc on 2/06/2014. Also a little while ago the same/similar strength signal was on 136.500kHz for a few days. I and others on the LF group suspected a mixing product with the very strong signal at my location on 81kHz. During the long period of time (years) I have monitored 136kHz band I have not seen these signals before. As far as I know nothing at my station has changed. [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 5934134de2d93cab1d5fc440b67de82f Subject: Re: LF: 474kHz commercial signal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030103050800070500090407" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030103050800070500090407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, LF, I can't say that I have seen that signal but I will certainly look for it. I have a similar signal on 136.160kHz at the moment which on this occasion started at 1701utc on 2/06/2014. Also a little while ago the same/similar strength signal was on 136.500kHz for a few days. I and others on the LF group suspected a mixing product with the very strong signal at my location on 81kHz. During the long period of time (years) I have monitored 136kHz band I have not seen these signals before. As far as I know nothing at my station has changed. It was suggested the other part of the mix may be around 55kHz. I am now monitoring the area round that frequency to see if any Tx's stop & start at the same times. I would be interested if anyone else has seen these signals. See my grabber. *73, de Gary - G4WGT MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html* . On 03/06/2014 10:20, Mike Dennison wrote: > I presume this has been discussed before and I missed it. > > What is the origin of the quite strong, wide RTTY-like signal on > 474.0kHz? It appears to be commercial as it is on continuously, and > it comes up after dark every day. > > For a while I presumed this was a funny on my receiver, but it > appeared on another receiver with different architecture, and also on > DK7FC's grabber. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > --------------030103050800070500090407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Mike, LF,

I can't say that I have seen that signal but I will certainly look for it.

I have a similar signal on 136.160kHz at the moment which on this occasion started at 1701utc on 2/06/2014.
Also a little while ago the same/similar strength signal was on 136.500kHz for a few days.
I and others on the LF group suspected a mixing product with the very strong signal at my location on 81kHz.
During the long period of time (years) I have monitored 136kHz band I have not seen these signals before.
As far as I know nothing at my station has changed.

It was suggested the other part of the mix may be around 55kHz.
I am now monitoring the area round that frequency to see if any Tx's stop & start at the same times.

I would be interested if anyone else has seen these signals.

See my grabber.
73, de Gary - G4WGT
                            
MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html

.
On 03/06/2014 10:20, Mike Dennison wrote:
I presume this has been discussed before and I missed it.

What is the origin of the quite strong, wide RTTY-like signal on 
474.0kHz? It appears to be commercial as it is on continuously, and 
it comes up after dark every day.

For a while I presumed this was a funny on my receiver, but it 
appeared on another receiver with different architecture, and also on 
DK7FC's grabber. 

Mike, G3XDV
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