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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Edgar some but not all may be due to the ERP .......HGA22 runs twice the ERP of DCF39 from memory of when I was logging them here. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "edgar" To: Cc: <600m@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: LF: HGA22 vrs DCF39 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.20.0.127 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 4e3b1488273adbbe9757d6bdd5adf219 Subject: LF: Re: HGA22 vrs DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Edgar some but not all may be due to the ERP .......HGA22 runs twice the ERP of DCF39 from memory of when I was logging them here. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "edgar" To: Cc: <600m@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: LF: HGA22 vrs DCF39 > Hi, > > It is interesting to compare the difference between the HGA22 and DCF39 > signals at a distance greater than 16000 km. > > The difference in signal level at 21:00 UTC on the 12-5-2014 is ~ 13 dB. > > The difference in path length is ~ 562 km or about 3%. > > Refer to > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html > > Regards, Edgar > Moonah, Tasmania. > > >