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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Jay, Sorry , I realized later that you and Finbar made the the first T/A CW QSO. I believe that Bob is still the only station heard across the Atlantic on ssb. 73 Warren On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:33 AM, wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.216.45 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (wd2xgj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9d611a03c0c7539fa2f53ebf8cdeb3a5 Subject: Re: CW & SSB T/A !(was Re: LF: TA CW QSO on MF band is not a scoop Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c116144474a804f8ceb85e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --001a11c116144474a804f8ceb85e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Jay, Sorry , I realized later that you and Finbar made the the first T/A CW QSO. I believe that Bob is still the only station heard across the Atlantic on ssb. 73 Warren On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:33 AM, wrote: > WE2XGR/2 and Finbar made the first, and several subsequent W <> EU CW > QSOs on MF. Transmitting > conditions at WE2XGR/2: 400 watts transmitter power to 90' top loaded > vertical. The QSO were > relatively short but included a small amount of information besides 559 73 > sk. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Albert > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 6:51 AM > Subject: Re: CW & SSB T/A !(was Re: LF: TA CW QSO on MF band is not a scoop > > > > Stefan, > > If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see > 2000W tx power. I used abt > 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the antenna. If you listen to the > signal of Bob you will realize > that only RRRRR etc was not necessary. > You are right abt using QRP on these bands, a QRO tx is very useful to > get out of the garden. If > you consider the erp. we are actually working QRP on these low bands. > > 73, Albert > > > > > > DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19: > > Hi, > > Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power, rather > 5W or rather 500W? > And what about Bob, 5W or 500W? > Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary". > Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73 > didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-) > > 73, Stefan > > > > Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert: > All fyi, > > I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010, 04:00 UTC at > that time the DX record on > CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) a copy of the QSL card and an audio > file of the first part of the > QSO including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was abt, 5 W > erp. > > http://www.pa0a.com/500-khz/ > > (see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.) for the audio file click left on QSO > WE2XGR-6 v3 > > 73, Albert PA0A > > > > > > Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57: > > Andy, > > > Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call WE2XGR/6 worked > Finbar EI0CF on CW and also > ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar ran CW). > Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his reception of Bob's > ssb signal. > I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't recall all the > details. > > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --001a11c116144474a804f8ceb85e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sorry , =C2=A0I realized later that = you and Finbar made the the first T/A CW QSO.
I believe that Bob = is still the only station heard across the Atlantic on ssb.

<= /div>
73 Warren



On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:33 AM, <jrusgrove@comcast.net>= ; wrote:
WE2XGR/2 and Finbar made the first, and seve= ral subsequent =C2=A0W <> EU CW QSOs on MF. Transmitting
conditions at WE2XGR/2: 400 watts transmitter power to 90' top loaded v= ertical. The QSO were
relatively short but included a small amount of information besides 559 73 = sk.

Jay W1VD =C2=A0WD2XNS =C2=A0WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- From: Albert
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CW & SSB T/A !(was Re: LF: TA CW QSO on MF band is not a s= coop



Stefan,

If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see = 2000W tx power. I used abt
400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the antenna. If you listen to the signa= l of Bob you will realize
that only RRRRR etc was not necessary.
You are right abt using QRP on these bands, =C2=A0a QRO tx is very useful t= o get out of the garden. If
you consider the erp. we are actually working QRP on these low bands.

73, Albert





DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19:

Hi,

Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power, rather 5= W or rather 500W?
And what about Bob, 5W or 500W?
Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary".
Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73
didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-)

73, Stefan



Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert:
All fyi,

I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010, =C2=A004:00 UTC = at that time the DX record on
CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) a copy of the QSL card and an audio file= of the first part of the
QSO including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was abt, 5 W = erp.

http://www.pa0a.= com/500-khz/

(see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.) =C2=A0for the audio file click left on QSO= WE2XGR-6 v3

73, Albert PA0A





Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57:

Andy,


=C2=A0 Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call WE2XGR/6 worked = Finbar EI0CF on CW and also
ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar ran CW).
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his reception of= Bob's ssb signal.
I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't recall all t= he details.


73 Warren K2ORS





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= 73 Warren K2ORS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = WD2XGJ
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WD2XSH/2= 3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WE2XEB/2
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WE2XGR/1

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