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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see 2000W tx power. I used abt 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the antenna. If you listen to the signal of Bob you will realize that only RRRRR etc was not necessary. You are right abt using QRP on these bands, a QRO tx is very useful to get out of the garden. If you consider the erp. we are actually working QRP on these low bands. 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I used abt 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the antenna. If you listen to the signal of Bob you will realize that only RRRRR etc was not necessary. You are right abt using QRP on these bands, a QRO tx is very useful to get out of the garden. If you consider the erp. we are actually working QRP on these low bands. 73, Albert DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19: > Hi, > > Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power, > rather 5W or rather 500W? > And what about Bob, 5W or 500W? > Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary". > Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73 > didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-) > > 73, Stefan > > > > Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert: >> All fyi, >> >> I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010, 04:00 UTC >> at that time the DX record on CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) a >> copy of the QSL card and an audio file of the first part of the QSO >> including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was abt, 5 >> W erp. >> >> http://www.pa0a.com/500-khz/ >> >> (see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.) for the audio file click left on >> QSO WE2XGR-6 v3 >> >> 73, Albert PA0A >> >> >> >> >> >> Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57: >>> Andy, >>> >>> Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call WE2XGR/6 >>> worked Finbar EI0CF on CW and also ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar ran CW). >>> Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his reception of >>> Bob's ssb signal. >>> I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't recall >>> all the details. >>> >>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------090508090100000808010101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Stefan,

If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see 2000W tx power. I used abt 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the antenna. If you listen to the signal of Bob you will realize that only RRRRR etc was not necessary.
You are right abt using QRP on these bands,  a QRO tx is very useful to get out of the garden. If you consider the erp. we are actually working QRP on these low bands.

73, Albert

     



DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19:
Hi,

Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power, rather 5W or rather 500W?
And what about Bob, 5W or 500W?
Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary".
Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73 didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-)

73, Stefan



Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert:
All fyi,

I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010,  04:00 UTC at that time the DX record on CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) a copy of the QSL card and an audio file of the first part of the QSO including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was abt, 5 W erp.

 http://www.pa0a.com/500-khz/

(see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.)  for the audio file click left on QSO WE2XGR-6 v3

73, Albert PA0A





Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57:
Andy,

   Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call WE2XGR/6 worked Finbar EI0CF on CW and also ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar ran CW).  
    Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his reception of Bob's ssb signal.
I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't recall all the details.

73 Warren K2ORS







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